HashiriKata Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:12 PM Report Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:12 PM We don't use it [化装间'] in Modern Chinese these days but it's still commonly used in Japan. Are you sure? I don't think it ever exists in Japan.(This will keep you going ) Quote
skylee Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:28 PM Report Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:28 PM 化妝室 is used in Korea (well I remember very clearly that this was what I looked for everytime I got into a dept store in Korea) but it is usually written in hanguel. Quote
Koneko Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:40 PM Report Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:40 PM Are you sure? I don't think it ever exists in Japan. あるよ。 From Wikipedia ... あからさまに口にすることが「はばかられる」ために、日本語においては、古くは「はばかり」や「雪隠（せっちん）」「厠（かわや）」「手水（ちょうず）*」、昭和以降は「お手洗い」「化粧室」｢ご不浄｣と言い替えたり、外国語（あるいは和製英語）を使い「トイレ」「W.C」「LAVATORY」などと表記したり、男女を示すピクトグラムのみで表したりすることが多い。 現在では、単に｢トイレ｣といわれることが多い。 Quote
skylee Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:48 PM Report Posted January 18, 2007 at 11:48 PM so it is "化粧室", not" 化装间". Quote
Koneko Posted January 19, 2007 at 11:51 AM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 11:51 AM He he... 室与间只是一线之差. 没想到上厕所的学问还那么大? Quote
jie2li4 Posted January 19, 2007 at 12:56 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 12:56 PM I don't know about 化妆间... but I'm quite sure I've seen 化妆室 before on signs here in Taiwan. @@; Though it does seem to be something you just see on signs, and not something people actually say much. On that note, it's funny how many different words there seem to be for "bathroom", isn't it? (In both Chinese and English). Quote
jie2li4 Posted January 19, 2007 at 12:59 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 12:59 PM Oh wait... I just realized that the characters 化妆室 are different from the Japanese 化粧室. ^^;;; Silly me! Quote
skylee Posted January 19, 2007 at 01:02 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 01:02 PM oh there is also 解憂所. hehe. Quote
Koneko Posted January 19, 2007 at 02:23 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 02:23 PM On that note, it's funny how many different words there seem to be for "bathroom", isn't it? (In both Chinese and English). Actually, there are many more in Chinese. If you Wikipedia, toilet in Chinese. You can see the results. Extracted some for your perusal. From Wikipedia, 称呼 中国及台湾 华人主要称为厕所、化妆室、洗手间、盥洗室、卫生间等。 闽南语称为“屎礐”，广东话俗称“屎坑”，台湾话则称为“便所”，为日语借词。 日本 古代的日本称厕所为“はばかり（habakari）”“雪隠”“厕（kawaya）”或“手水（tyouzu）"。在昭和年代以后就以“お手洗い(otearai)”"化妆室(kesyoushitsu)"，又或者使用外来语（或者说是日本造的英语）“トイレ(toire)" "W.C" "ラバトリー(rabaitori-)"。另外在公共场合的时候则用男女性别的图标表示的场合比较多。 在英语中，"トイレ"的语源英语的"toilet"自身有"化妆室(kesyoushitsu)"--即化妆间的意思，在一般居住的地方兼设有浴池或浴缸的厕所则叫"bathroom"，而对于公共厕所则有时称作以本意为休息室的"restroom"。 在现在的日本，厕所一词的说法通常有四种：“便所（bensyo）”、“トイレ（toire）”、“お手洗い（otearai）”、“化妆室（kesyousitsu）”，按照文雅程度“便所（bensyo）”最低，可翻译为中文的“茅厕”一般是在指公园等场合的公共厕所、也有人指没有附带卫生纸的厕所，“化妆室（kesyousitu）”是四种中最文雅的说法即是“化妆室”多指比较高档的厕所或是在特殊场合下使用，比如用餐时（在日本很多公共场合有专门的化妆室，只有镜子、水槽和垃圾箱等，里面没有入厕用具。也叫做“化妆室”一般是在比如同一层楼中只有单一性别的厕所的情况下出现。），而“トイレ（toire）”、“お手洗い（otearai）”则是比较普通的说法。 古代中国 中国古代厕所多设于房舍外，采“溷厕合一”形式与猪舍相连。通常粪坑颇挖并覆茅草，亦称“茅坑”或“茅厕”。 Quote
Koneko Posted January 19, 2007 at 05:30 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 05:30 PM Updates! Inspired by what I mentioned earlier today, 没想到上厕所的学问还那么大? I found out there's actually a college known as World Toilet College in Singapore!! Specialising in advanced $h!t management Any takers? Also, I came across this really funny blog entry about this World Toilet College from Kennysia.com Enjoy yourselves! http://kennysia.com/archives/2005/09/world_toilet_co.php Quote
HashiriKata Posted January 19, 2007 at 07:55 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 07:55 PM I found out there's actually a college known as World Toilet College in Singapore!!Specialising in advanced $h!t management 亲爱的 Koneko, 你今天怎么了？还离不开厕所呢？ Quote
anonymoose Posted January 19, 2007 at 09:03 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 09:03 PM 我要拉屎，好不好？ Quote
Koneko Posted January 19, 2007 at 10:24 PM Report Posted January 19, 2007 at 10:24 PM 親愛なるハシリカタさんへ、 我在想如果我能进得了世界厕所大学，然后再专攻高级屎便管理。 那我的大学论文应该写些什么呢？ 《高级屎便管理如何融入社会学之屎便字源入门篇》怎么样？ コネコより Quote
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