Chengyu: "every 50 li the dialect changes"

[onebir]

I've forgotten the hanzi - can anyone remind me?

Ta!

[Koneko]

五音六律?

K.

[Ole]

Chengyu ? No idea, but

the translation reminds me of a saying of Friedrich Nietzsche:

"It is so provincial to oblige oneself to opinions which, just a couple of hundred miles away, are no longer binding." (The Nietzsche Channel)

"Es ist so kleinstädtisch, sich zu Ansichten verpflichten, welche ein paar hundert Meilen weiter schon nicht mehr verpflichten." (de.wikisource.org)

Ole

[onebir]

"五音六律"... pretty sure it's not that.

I'm mainly curious about whether the saying uses a word for dialect or language (ie 方言 or 语言). On another forum someone was claiming chinese don't see regional 'dialects' as dialects, but as different languages...

[Koneko]

"五音六律"... pretty sure it's not that.

It's true but I can't think of any Chinese idioms containing 五十里 ?

K.

[wai ming]

After quite some googling, the closest matches I found were

五里不同音，十里不同俗 (155 results)

十里不同音 (2,850 results)

百里不同音 (721 results)

It seems to be one of those phrases with a few variations, basically all in the general vein of "千里不同風, 百里不同俗".

As you can see, dialects/languages becomes "sound(s)"

[Koneko]

By the sound of it, it's actually a Chinese proverb (谚语) not idiom (成语).

Is that right, onebir?

K.

[onebir]

By the sound of it, it's actually a Chinese proverb (谚语) not idiom (成语).

Is that right, onebir?

Probably!

But since all these seem to refer to 音 the shed no light on the dialect vs language issue

Thanks for the suggestions though - I imagine the 谚/成语 I was thinking of is one of the ones above & I just mixed it up a bit.

[Koneko]

Ha ha.. Just to make things "less" confusing.

We also have:-

俗語

格言

歇後語

Could your "chengyu" be one of them?

K.