Chow Fun and Chao Fan ...? Same thing?

[geek_frappa]

some restaurants call it Chow Fun.

some also call it Chao Fan...

both fried rice all the time? or does it depend on the restaurant?

is there another reason for the change in spelling?

[Quest]

chow fun-- fried noodles? 炒粉

chaofan is standard pinyin.

Different dialects. lack of standardization.

[hparade]

does cantonese have standard romanization? seems many systems~~

[geek_frappa]

ok, i get it...

炒粉 <--- fried noodles?

chao fen

炒飯 <--- fried rice

chao fan

in answering your question, hparade, i think Yale is popular because prolific cantonese teachers use it, but personally, i think anyone who can find a good system for cantonese will win the Nobel Prize.

even my professors still argue about the tones... in fact, cantonese is changing again, so now they have more to argue about...

[smithsgj]

Fried noodles in the UK is usually described as chow mein: presumably this is Cantonese for or otherwise related to 炒麵?

I've just asked the other occupant of my office (he's from Hong Kong, so can't help out with the "wu" thing!). He says chow fun could be either 炒粉 (fried glass noodles) or 炒飯, not sure. I suppose the only right way to find out is to try ordering it!

[confucius]

Chow fun is rice noodles, most commonly used in "gan chao niu he" which appears as "Beef Chow Fun" in Chinese restaurant menus. These are the flat wide noodles that are a staple of Cantonese cuisine.

Chow fan is simply fried rice, often appearing in menus as "Yangzhou chao fan"

[39degN]

Chow fun is rice noodles, most commonly used in "gan chao niu he" which appears as "Beef Chow Fun" in Chinese restaurant menus. These are the flat wide noodles that are a staple of Cantonese cuisine.

Chow fan is simply fried rice, often appearing in menus as "Yangzhou chao fan"

yes,

干炒牛合 OR 干炒合粉

VS 扬州炒饭

[skylee]

Aiiya~~ I suppose it should be 牛河 and 河粉.

[39degN]

yeah, you are right i forgot it!

so ladies and gentlemen, you should have enough confidence to speak mandarin. see, even native speakers still often made a lots of mistakes.

[hparade]

yes, even the locals, they mix up different characters with the same sounds, or using another unrelated characters to substitude the one they forget, ai.... :roll: