Palm : 3 small issues with CJKOS and Documents to Go

[Long Pan]

I just bought a Palm TX in Beijing which comes with CJKOS. It works well except on 3 small issues. Maybe some of you might be able to help

1. No problem to read Chinese documents on Documents to Go; the only trouble is that I cannot input Chinese. Neither pinyin nor character recognition work (although Chinese input works in the agenda or memo applications) What to do?
   
2. Following some advise from this forum, I’ve also installed the CJKOS font 10 and 24. But on “Documents to Go” CJKOS just gives me 2 fonts to read (a small and a big one where 10=12 and 16=24).
   
3. I’ve installed the phrase input option (also advised in other threads): it works well but I find it a bit short compared to the phrase database under Windows or even in my mobile phone. For instance, if I input “nishishei” CJKOS gives nothing, as on Windows I first get a 你是 and then a 谁. Any possibility to upgrade the database?
   

Thanks for your help

[gato]

No problem to read Chinese documents on Documents to Go; the only trouble is that I cannot input Chinese. Neither pinyin nor character recognition work (although Chinese input works in the agenda or memo applications) What to do?

Have you tried going into Menu->Edit->Keyboard? This is the normal to invoke the CJKOS keyboard.

# Following some advise from this forum, I’ve also installed the CJKOS font 10 and 24. But on “Documents to Go” CJKOS just gives me 2 fonts to read (a small and a big one where 10=12 and 16=24).

Did you download CJKOS from its website and read the readme file?

You could try installing these fonts from that CJKOS zip file.

FGBK10F.PDB 10X10 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

FGBK12F.PDB 12X12 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

FGBK16F.PDB 16X16 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

FGBK24F.PDB 24X24 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

I’ve installed the phrase input option (also advised in other threads): it works well but I find it a bit short compared to the phrase database under Windows or even in my mobile phone. For instance, if I input “nishishei” CJKOS gives nothing, as on Windows I first get a 你是 and then a 谁. Any possibility to upgrade the database?

I think that's probably as good as it gets with CJKOS. It's a word-based input system. 你是谁 is not really one word.

See some more Palm input choices here. Most of them are in Chinese only and intended for the Treo with a keyboard, though.

http://www.pdabase.com/download/Index.asp?CateID=13&SubCateID=99

[Xiao Kui]

#No problem to read Chinese documents on Documents to Go; the only trouble is that I cannot input Chinese. Neither pinyin nor character recognition work (although Chinese input works in the agenda or memo applications) What to do?

I also bought a Palm TX in China (with CKJOS) and have exactly the opposite problem. I can input in Chinese, but when I import Chinese docs into Documents to Go or Adobe Reader for Palm I just get ????? Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks!!

[gato]

I also bought a Palm TX in China (with CKJOS) and have exactly the opposite problem. I can input in Chinese, but when I import Chinese docs into Documents to Go or Adobe Reader for Palm I just get ????? Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks!!

Is this with the pre-installed version of DocsToGo? What version number is it? Sometimes the order of installation matters, either CJKOS has to be installed before DocsToGo, or DocsToGo before CJKOS. I don't quite remember. But if they are both pre-installed on your system, then I don't know why it's not working. Is your TX different from Long Pan's?

[Xiao Kui]

CKJOS was preinstalled. I can't remember if Docs to Go was preinstalled or I installed it off the disk that came with the TX. Well, if it requires re-installation I won't have time to mess with it for a few more days.

[roddy]

I think I had the same problem with Docs to Go - basically if you use the desktop app to convert documents to convert them to docs to go files, you'll lose the Chinese (although I seem to remember that making sure the filename and the first line of the file are English might fix this). I found that the best option is not to use the desktop app, just send the .docs direct to your PDA via Hotsync or by placing onto an SD card, and open them as native word docs.

[ipsi()]

I've also got the problem of Docs to Go not working with Chinese. I know for a fact that CJKOS was installed prior to Docs, and seems to be built into the ROM, which would make installing Docs to Go first rather hard...

[Long Pan]

I also bought a Palm TX in China (with CKJOS) and have exactly the opposite problem. I can input in Chinese, but when I import Chinese docs into Documents to Go or Adobe Reader for Palm I just get ????? Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks!!

Xiao Kui, I had the same problem.

• As Roddy said the easiest solution is to use “Palm Quick install” (the desktop application) to synchronise your file.
  
• You can also do it with Documents to Go desktop application, but then on the right window ("details") you should select “word document” in the "handheld format" field instead of "Word to Go" which seems to destroy 汉字 (same for xls or powerpoint). On the other hand the "Words to Go" version is much better to read French accents than the "Word version"; it takes also less space
  

[Long Pan]

Have you tried going into Menu->Edit->Keyboard? This is the normal to invoke the CJKOS keyboard.

Thanks Gato, it works well

You could try installing these fonts from that CJKOS zip file.

FGBK10F.PDB 10X10 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

FGBK12F.PDB 12X12 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

FGBK16F.PDB 16X16 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

FGBK24F.PDB 24X24 Chinese GBK About 24066 words

Here is what I have installed :

HotSync operation started for Pascal on 09/06/07 18:15:36

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFB510F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFB512F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFB516F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFB524F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGB10F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGB12F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGB16F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGB24F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallPhrB5F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallPhrGBF.PDB

OK Install

As I selected "Charset: Chinese GB" (and not GBK) in CJKOS, I did not choose the GBK; should I ?

[Long Pan]

Just followed your advise Gato…

HotSync operation started for Pascal on 09/07/07 13:33:02

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGBK10F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGBK12F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGBK16F.PDB

- Installed file: C:Program FilesPalmPascalInstallFGBK24F.PDB

… but still only 2 font sizes in Documents to Go. Though it is not a big deal (I currently read only the bigger size), it might be useful later. Do you all can read 4 size font in Documents to Go? Maybe this programm can only support 2 sizes ?

[gato]

Do you all can read 4 size font in Documents to Go? Maybe this programm can only support 2 sizes ?

Hmm. Maybe it is a DocsToGo problem. On my Treo, the larger fonts don't show up very clearly (there's an overlap between lines) when running DocsToGo. I don't have too much an issue with it. I also use TealDoc reader, which works nicely with PlecoDict's "instant access" lookup feature.

[Long Pan]

Mind that on my TX, I had conflicts between Pleco and CJKOS which I managed to solve by deleting the GBK fonts. Now I work with GB + BIG5 (12, 16, 24) and everything is perfect (eventhough as said previously, only 2 fonts are used on Docs to Go). See here for more details.