fairykarma Posted September 21, 2007 at 07:31 PM Report Posted September 21, 2007 at 07:31 PM I'm very slowly trying to read Alice in Wonderland in Chinese so this is the sentence I'm trying to understand. 做一只雏菊花环的乐趣,能不能抵得上摘雏菊的麻烦呢? My first question is 的. I know its general use in possession and attribution, but I don't understand its use in this sentence. 做一只雏菊花环的乐趣 making a daisy wreath 的 enjoyment/pleasure. I'm not sure how the 的 connects those two words. Is it, the enjoyment OF making a daisy wreath? 2. The second part of the sentence is also pretty confusing too. 能不能抵得上摘雏菊的麻烦呢 can it or can it not 抵得上 the trouble of picking daisies. what does 抵得上 mean? ,Thanks Quote
kudra Posted September 22, 2007 at 03:29 AM Report Posted September 22, 2007 at 03:29 AM part 1, yes, the enjoyment of making .... Unless I am completely mistaken part2. 得上 -- you might start off thinking this has the meaning "able to get on top of" or "able to pass", but given the context it's more like "able to be sufficient, " 抵 has entry "hold up; on the whole; push against; to support; to resist; to reach; to arrive; to mortgage." in mandarintools.com I'm going with support, prop up. so roughly it's "does the enjoyment ...., justify the trouble of ...." Quote
gougou Posted September 22, 2007 at 04:18 AM Report Posted September 22, 2007 at 04:18 AM One of the first books I ever bought in China was a bilingual version of Alice in Wonderland (see for example here). You might benefit from getting one of these as well. Although I have to say that I didn't like the Chinese version too much and just read the English after first couple of pages... Quote
fairykarma Posted September 22, 2007 at 06:36 PM Author Report Posted September 22, 2007 at 06:36 PM Thank you kudra! Gougou, I don't mind the Chinese version so much. Kind of like doing a jigsaw puzzle. I'm reading Alice in Wonderland so I'll have enough grammar and vocabulary to read Wolf Totem. Maybe next year, I'll be able to read James Joyce in Chinese. Quote
mandel1luke Posted September 25, 2007 at 05:23 AM Report Posted September 25, 2007 at 05:23 AM 抵得上 - match up to imagine something propping on one side, you need an equal op reaction the other side Quote
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