muyongshi Posted October 7, 2007 at 12:27 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 12:27 AM So what do you all say shei or shui? Also if you can leave a message with your location it would be really helpful as I have a suspicion that how it is used depends on where you live/study... Quote
abuck Posted October 7, 2007 at 01:39 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 01:39 AM I first studied in Philadelphia, which is where I learned this pronunciation from my (Taiwanese) teachers. Quote
Han-tiger Posted October 7, 2007 at 01:57 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 01:57 AM I am a Beijing native, I say shei in my verbal communication. Quote
magudo Posted October 7, 2007 at 02:35 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 02:35 AM we dont say谁 in our dialect (wuhan), we say "哪个"(na guo). when we speak mandarin, we say "shei" Quote
gougou Posted October 7, 2007 at 06:11 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 06:11 AM I barely ever hear shui in Beijing. abuck, you might want to mention that you voted for shei, because as soon as somebody chooses shui, that won't be obvious anymore. Quote
imron Posted October 7, 2007 at 06:21 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 06:21 AM I mostly use shei, but occasionally will throw in a shui. Where I used to live in Hebei, I'd hear shui quite often (but it was still predominantly shei) Quote
Lu Posted October 7, 2007 at 06:49 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 06:49 AM There are several threads on this word already, you could try looking for them. Quote
Luise Posted October 7, 2007 at 07:03 AM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 07:03 AM As far as I know,we can say 谁 in shui and shei. But I never hear someone who says shui,we all say shei. I am born in Hunan,and now in Shanghai. Quote
muyongshi Posted October 7, 2007 at 08:43 AM Author Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 08:43 AM I've read the threads....wanted to see actual numbers... (didn't feel like counting every single post ) we dont say谁 in our dialect (wuhan), we say "哪个"(na guo). when we speak mandarin, we say "shei" 四川话 the same thing... Quote
magudo Posted October 7, 2007 at 11:56 PM Report Posted October 7, 2007 at 11:56 PM 四川话 the same thing... yes~ 四川话 and 武汉话 are very similar, because “湖广填四川” Quote
xianhua Posted July 25, 2009 at 08:17 PM Report Posted July 25, 2009 at 08:17 PM Forgive me for reviving an old thread, but I sit firmly in the 'shei' camp - as it appears the native speakers on here do. However, this begs the question as to why my daughter's Mandarin story books all give 'shui' as the Pinyin for 谁? Even 八仙过海 sides with the 'shuiers'. I've seen 'shui' on kids DVDs too. Perhaps one has to reach a certain age before entering shei-hood. Quote
Hofmann Posted July 26, 2009 at 12:02 AM Report Posted July 26, 2009 at 12:02 AM I say shei2. How do you pronounce 淚? Quote
muyongshi Posted July 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM Author Report Posted July 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM Forgive me for reviving an old thread, but I sit firmly in the 'shei' camp - as it appears the native speakers on here do. However, this begs the question as to why my daughter's Mandarin story books all give 'shui' as the Pinyin for 谁? Even 八仙过海 sides with the 'shuiers'. I've seen 'shui' on kids DVDs too. Perhaps one has to reach a certain age before entering shei-hood. Ummm...just glanced through those who have responded and hat to break it to you but the majority aren't native speakers and if you look at how many people have voted, it's only 22. Hardly enough to make a true statistical determinations from. Quote
tooironic Posted July 26, 2009 at 05:48 AM Report Posted July 26, 2009 at 05:48 AM Interesting. Wenlin says: 谁 is sometimes pronounced shéi, especially in 北京 Běijīng colloquial, but the more standard pronunciation is shuí. And yet the majority here (so far) have voted for shéi... Quote
muyongshi Posted July 26, 2009 at 07:06 AM Author Report Posted July 26, 2009 at 07:06 AM Sometimes, I've encountered it in those, "He's a foreigner so I better say it like this..." type of situations. You know where they say yuan instead of kuai because that's more whatever ["proper" I guess] so there is a larger likely hood of us knowing it. At least I think that is the train of thought. Same for this, I've heard people start to say shei and then switch half way through after a slight pause. Just a thought Quote
yonglin Posted July 26, 2009 at 04:16 PM Report Posted July 26, 2009 at 04:16 PM I think that shei2 is a variant of shui2 (which is official), just like 那, 哪, 这 (which are officially na4, na3, zhe4) are often pronounced nei4, nei3, zhei4. I also have the feeling that shui2 is used more often than this thread would indicate, especially in formal speech. Quote
Guili Posted July 27, 2009 at 03:56 PM Report Posted July 27, 2009 at 03:56 PM I am in Shanghai ,and our teacher teached us to tell shei,cos it is easy to pronounce,and if I say shui2,it seems like I sayed 水 I don't know why,even if they are with different shengdiao Quote
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