Outofin Posted December 24, 2007 at 03:44 PM Report Posted December 24, 2007 at 03:44 PM In such a long history, it’s not surprising that some people played similar roles. They are stereotyped in Chinese culture. Here is a list of people I can recall off the top of my head, those whom most believe they were. They are mostly in the right place but not necessarily accurate. The good and wise: 屈原,诸葛亮,周恩来 Heroes: 项羽,关羽,杨业,岳飞,袁崇焕 Dark Heroes: 曹操,毛泽东 Tyrants: 嬴政,杨广 Reformers: 商鞅,晁错,王安石,邓小平 奸臣:秦桧,严嵩,魏忠贤 权臣(excluding those who eventually became rulers):霍光,宇文护,张居正 忠臣:文天祥 Saints: I think there were too many. Quote
skylee Posted December 24, 2007 at 11:55 PM Report Posted December 24, 2007 at 11:55 PM 毛澤東……周恩來……百年不論史…… It's a bit too early IMHO. Quote
studentyoung Posted December 25, 2007 at 01:12 AM Report Posted December 25, 2007 at 01:12 AM 毛澤東……周恩來……百年不論史…… It's a bit too early IMHO. I think the very true fact is哪个人后无人说,哪个人前不说人. 百年不论史? As long as people take a neutral, objective and profound thought on these men and their life, it can be something very meaningful. So, why not? Cheers! Quote
fireball9261 Posted December 26, 2007 at 05:44 AM Report Posted December 26, 2007 at 05:44 AM I agree with studentyoung. I agree with Outofin's categorization from what I know, but I might be wrong on some of them. Quote
Outofin Posted December 26, 2007 at 03:22 PM Author Report Posted December 26, 2007 at 03:22 PM There are definitely misconception and different interpretation on these people. Cao Cao was clearly under the category of bad guys before, but now people more think of him as a genius. He truly was! And folklores put too many moral judgments on history, often simplify it as the fight between good guys and bad guys. Now add a new category: Empress and Queens. 武则天 was the only real Empress in Chinese history. But it’s not a rare case that Queens put her hands on the top power. In many cases when a child Emperor ascended the throne, the person he most trusted and relied on was naturally his mother. They were, 吕后,窦太后,文明太后冯氏,西太后慈禧。 Quote
Entropy_Rising Posted December 30, 2007 at 06:14 PM Report Posted December 30, 2007 at 06:14 PM While we're on the topic of empresses let's not forget everyone's favorite psychotic first lady 江青. Quote
floatingmoon Posted December 31, 2007 at 07:35 AM Report Posted December 31, 2007 at 07:35 AM 孙中山,黄帝 Quote
chenpv Posted December 31, 2007 at 06:02 PM Report Posted December 31, 2007 at 06:02 PM Aside from political figures, I will add: 徐霞客,蔡伦,祖冲之,张衡 Quote
floatingmoon Posted January 1, 2008 at 05:39 AM Report Posted January 1, 2008 at 05:39 AM 蔡倫 invent paper. 陸羽 invent tea. 張衡 is a scientist, he invent...many things such as 地動儀. (地動儀 is ancient earthquake detector) Quote
studentyoung Posted January 28, 2008 at 03:12 AM Report Posted January 28, 2008 at 03:12 AM 陸羽 invent tea. Sorry, but I think tea wasn’t invented by 陆羽. His great contribution to the world is his great book named “Book of Tea 《茶经》”, which is the first book in history that describes: tea trees, tools used to process tea, all processes to handle freshly picked tea leaves, tea sets, how to cook tea and what kind of water you can choose to cook tea, how to drink tea and what kind of ingredients you can add in your tea, historical records on tea, original places of all kinds of tea, and so on. Cheers! Quote
floatingmoon Posted February 2, 2008 at 04:20 AM Report Posted February 2, 2008 at 04:20 AM oh! thankx for the correction Now I am curious, who invent tea? Quote
studentyoung Posted February 2, 2008 at 07:56 AM Report Posted February 2, 2008 at 07:56 AM oh! thankx for the correction You're welcome. Now I am curious, who invent tea? Hehe. In fact, tea is leaves on tea trees. Long long ago, people found that it was a kind of perfect beverage after it was processed. Cheers! Quote
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