The big bad wolf

[Shadowdh]

Thanks for the clarification... its really not even that bloody to be honest... I have played in many games where nothing more than feelings are hurt... also we dont watch for the blood and/or pain of the players... we watch for the competition and skill of the game...

Good point re a possible aftermath of the football game :mrgreen:

[fireball9261]

The bloody parts are not necessarily the sport itself, but the actions of the fans. About the deaths, just read your local newspapers! We got a few in California as well as the rest of U.S. How about the fan actions after the soccer matches? How about some of the actions those players displayed in and out of the games? I hate the ways some of the Westerners talk about the benefits for their children to be in the team sports, and some of the people listing sports stars as their heroes. If the sports stars have good moral standards and good men, then I would say they are heroes, but some of them are just plain trash! Most of the time, I saw players in these team sports are a bunch of bullies or bullies in training. Not to mention some of the parents of the younger players, we got a few murders from those bunch!

Also, know the Wrestling is not real and mostly staged, but just look at the faces of the audiences. What differences are they from the audiences in the ancient Roman time?

[fireball9261]

If you are walking forward while looking backward, you will trip over something and fall down, and this is exactly what is happening in Japan. The birthrates in Japan are some of the lowest in the world, so much so that their population is dropping by a comparatively fast rate. Why? Traditional attitudes about women in a modern economic environment. In 100 years the Japanese people will be extinct, their backwardness is killing them.

The problem is China had turned away from our traditions in such a way that the younger generations are rootless. Many lost their respect to their own culture and their own identity. Is that better? I met an adult engineer who was my husband's co-worker. He blindly loves everything that is western and blindly hates everything that is Chinese. Is that attitude better? We need to understand what are our traditions. Why did our ancestors do things in certain ways? What could be modified in the modern world? And what should be kept? Not all of the traditions are good, and not all the the traditions are bad.

Btw, Foot binding was not the most ancient Chinese traditions, nor are the total looking down at the women. In Chinese traditions, Yin and Yang have their own roles, and both are equal. If they are not equal, the order of the universe would be disturbed. That was why the men could not and should not step in between his wife and his concubine in the more traditional household because the affairs inside of the house belong to the wife's domain. In addition, the men were not supposed to even get a concubine unless he was 40 years old and had no son, and his wife must agree also. A lot of Chinese traditions were twisted because of men's desire to be in power and in control. However, if you really read many of the stories from the imperial time to the early Republic and to see between the lines and study the true family dynamics in Chinese families, you would find out that women's status in the Chinese families were not as low as many Westerners think. Actually, in the more ancient of the Chinese traditions, the women's status were much higher than the later times. Fu Hao in Shang dynasty was a warrior, a priestess, as well as a lord with her own land besides being the Queen/Royal Concubine to the Shang Emperor.

Btw, the attitudes of Japan and Korea towards women seem to be much more severe than China. Even at the time of the late Qing dynasty and early Republic, my impression was that the Chinese women were allowed more freedom and had more supports from their own fathers and husbands to gain more educations and freedom of choices. My own grandfather stopped my grandmother to bind my mother's feet around 1927 and allowed my mother to run free in an era where women should not climb trees or swim in the river -- My mom did all that and close to an age when she was going to get married (her marriage age was supposed to be at 14 years old, but she ran away.) The wife of the famous Chinese Linguist, Zhao Yuanren, also had her grandfather and adopted father's help to cancel her arranged marriage, go to school in Japan, and became a female school's principal at age of 20, and eventually became a medical doctor. When she was the principal, many local warlords of 40 or 50 years old treated her with respect and not looking down at her just because she was a woman.

[outcast]

A lot of Chinese traditions were twisted because of men's desire to be in power and in control.

Absolutly, which is perhaps why they should be thrown out. What good are traditions if they are corrupted? If you are given a rotten apple, do you eat it?

. Actually, in the more ancient of the Chinese traditions, the women's status were much higher than the later times.

Yes, and then China, under the mantle of Neo-Confucianism lost its way and in a spectacular failure of evolution, went backwards (twisting these traditions and even forgetting many of its own inventions).

I met an adult engineer who was my husband's co-worker. He blindly loves everything that is western and blindly hates everything that is Chinese. Is that attitude better?

It isn't better.