roddy Posted March 18, 2008 at 02:05 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 02:05 PM As of right now, I'm able to get the BBC's news pages (ie the news.bbc.co.uk subdomain) directly, with no proxy, etc. Checked with someone in Beijing and the same thing is true there. Anyone else around China finding the same thing? I doubt it'll last, but refreshing to see all the same . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted March 18, 2008 at 02:09 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 02:09 PM Yep same here....Check tomorrow and then we'll know if it's a fluke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted March 18, 2008 at 03:23 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 03:23 PM Maybe they are listening to your PR advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowdh Posted March 18, 2008 at 03:29 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 03:29 PM Yep I can get it here too... comes in with no problems or proxy... even with a rather large report about his holiness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianlondon Posted March 18, 2008 at 04:17 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 04:17 PM Good. They read my "stupid or liars" post and decided to act. I run China! Anything else you'd like to see changed? I was going to ban queue pushing but then many "china expat" web sites would go out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msittig Posted March 18, 2008 at 05:59 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 05:59 PM Accessible in Shanghai on residential China Telecom ADSL. Amazing. BBC was one of the most hard-core-blocked sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted March 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM Still accessible this morning. And the Guardian filter/block seems to have been lifted, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianlondon Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM Either they've decided to open everything up on the basis that more people are complaining about the news censorship than they are about the situation in teebet, or their firewall crashed having had an upload of too many trigger words ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:20 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:20 AM Wikipedia is still blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:25 AM Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:25 AM Well, I can still get it this morning. Who knows what's going on. Could be a slip-up somewhere - didn't something similar happen last spring festival with other sites? - or perhaps some bizarre decision-making process has decided that it's time for some good press, lets make friends with the BBC. Guess it's not impossible that someone decided the BBC's coverage over the last few days has been more China-friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:32 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:32 AM The BBC news site is not completely unblocked. I can't get to this page without using a proxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:38 AM Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 12:38 AM Yeah, there are two types of blocking in operation. Hard, url-based blocks take out a complete site, or subdomain. IE wikipedia.org, news.bbc.co.uk. It doesn't matter what content is on there, it's always blocked. Keyword filtering. Any page with a certain combination of words on is blocked as you try to access it. You'll often get half a page loaded, then a 'connection to the server reset' message (on Firefox, at least). There's no list of pages blocked this way - it's done in real time as browsers try to access it. This is what causes us problems sometimes, but if you edit the page to remove / disguise the offending terms it'll work fine. Keyword filtering is applied to the entire Internet. So although they've allowed access to the news.bbc.co.uk url for now, any pages on it that trigger keyword filters are still going to cause problems. It's this type of filtering that had the Guardian complaining it was being blocked yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Turkey Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:26 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:26 AM The way I see it, there isn't much risk for Beijing to unblock BBC. They're probably pretty confident that they've gotten most, if not all non-local journalists out of the place. I doubt that they're going to let journalists back in any time soon. Everyone here in Hong Kong is saying "Close the door to beat the dog." A friend just over the border said that yesterday those four characters were running afoul of the key word filters. Can anybody else confirm that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:35 AM Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:35 AM But the BBC block goes way beyond current events - it's been in place for as long as I can remember. It would be noteworthy to see it removed at ANY point, for it to happen now is basically . . . odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Turkey Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:42 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:42 AM Ah, then that is very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senzhi Posted March 19, 2008 at 09:52 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 09:52 AM Anybody thought that this might be (testing) in preparation of some games this year? Many foreign visitors will like to follow the news through their familiar sites. I suppose Beijing feels they have the obligation to let at least something through, else I can see the complaints rocket from those one-time visiting sport fans. Too much negative publicity they can miss. In addition, they still need to show some evidence on the censorship issue, which was a requirement for them to get those games. As well as showing improvement on other issues (which they currently seem not to succeed in at all.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted March 19, 2008 at 10:05 AM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 10:05 AM I'm sure for the olympics everything will be unblocked and everyone will claim how they didn't notice any real censorship at all. And then afterwards everything will be back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gougou Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:11 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:11 PM I'm sure for the olympics everything will be unblocked and everyone will claim how they didn't notice any real censorship at all.Sounds plausible. After all, we did get blogspot for the duration of the last 两会 when all the foreign journalists swarmed to Beijing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall_flagg Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:41 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:41 PM I could picture them doing a test run as well. But now?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianlondon Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:46 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 at 02:46 PM As I say, maybe their firewall has a problem. Or maybe they realise that, assuming they don't "do a Burma" with the captured monks, this issue has actually been a winner for China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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