Permanent Stay

[cdn_in_bj]

Although purely theoretical, if a foreigner were successful in immigrating to China, and surrendered their original nationality (instead of being a dual citizen, which raises another whole series of questions about the status of Chinese nationals holding dual citizenship), would it be as bloody difficult to travel overseas as it is for Chinese born citizens?

I would expect that you'd be treated no differently from a "natural" Chinese national.

Forgetting about the idea of actually immigrating for a moment, marrying a Taiwanese (or maybe even Hong Kongnese) gives you a lot of privileges that marrying a Mainland Chinese does, as I understand it. I'm married to a Mainland Chinese, and the visa you get through marriage is really just a glorified tourist visa. You can't even legally work, at least that's what I was told when I asked about it at the PSB.

I already posted this earlier in this thread, but here it is again. According to this site a Chinese green card gives you many of the same priviledges that you listed for HK and Taiwan PR's, including being allowed to buy property and work (legally):

http://www.china.org.cn/english/LivinginChina/184128.htm

[superlemon50]

Hello,

I was wondering if it is really that hard to apply for China PR or perhaps greencard which allow you to stay permanently without having to renew or extend your visa? I heard that it is quite hard. I was thinking of after I graduate from UNI, and after I have established a stable business and a flow of stable income maybe that is after 5 to 8 years, I was thinking of moving to China to live. Especially Beijing. Because Im very sure after 5 to 8 years China will be alot more better. And everyday improve.

Im an oversea Chinese and heard that they wont give PR easily to ethnic Chinese as well. Is bloodline matter when come to Chinese immigration?

[olayie]

A couple of years ago, on a business trip from Heathrow to back Beijing, I actually saw one 蓝眼睛，holding a Chinese passport.... He passed the Customs in front of me in the "Chinese passports only" lane.

I heard 大山 is a Chinese national now, and his Chinese wife holds a Canadian passport. Is it true?

[simonlaing]

Da Shan could be a citizen but it is more likely that he just has a green card.

I heard he spends much of his time in Canada these days as his kids are going to school there.

Getting a Green card last I heard was easiest if you were married to a Chinese citizen and lived in China for 5 years after you got married.

During those years you can get your last visa renewed at the police station. (I think it is annoying the first time but easier on consecutive times, most renew work visas Zs or Fs. )They said theoretically it is possible to extend student visas this way but usually doesn't happen. Perhaps an age reason .

Other people who have invested a large amount of money and built companies in China have been given green cards for their contributions. (Sort of like honorary degrees.) But these are people who have million dollar companies like Siemens and others, also this is not automatic. You can go in the Chinese passport line and use your green card as a passport when you come back to china.

I'm going to get one when I qualitfy. Yeah Baby.

have fun,

Simon:)