flameproof Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:21 PM Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:21 PM This will be bad news, real bad news for some: All foreign Students need to leave China July and August! http://news.monstersandcritics.com/asiapacific/features/article_1400345.php/China_to_clear_out_students_refugees_before_Olympics China to clear out students, refugees before Olympics Apr 17, 2008, 10:48 GMT Beijing - China plans to order all foreign students to leave the country before the Olympic Games in August, strictly regulate the issuing of business and tourist visas, and deport refugees, sources said on Thursday. 'Even if you have to continue your studies in September, you need to leave Beijing in July and August,' a spokeswoman for Beijing University told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa. In German: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,548024,00.html Quote
roddy Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:34 PM Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:34 PM A careful reading of the article makes it sound more like Beijing, rather than all of China - summer courses might have been canceled in Beijing, I don't think that's the case in the rest of the country. I'm going to edit the title accordingly before we have mass panic. I'd also be curious as to how this would actually be enforced. Can't see why you couldn't go and sit in another city for two months, or simply not answer the door. Massive over-reaction and a huge pain in the neck all the same. Quote
gato Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:38 PM Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:38 PM They are probably afraid of protesters.... Quote
flameproof Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:44 PM Author Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:44 PM A careful reading of the article makes it sound more like Beijing, rather than all of China - summer courses might have been canceled in Beijing, I don't think that's the case in the rest of the country. I'm going to edit the title accordingly before we have mass panic.I'd also be curious as to how this would actually be enforced. Can't see why you couldn't go and sit in another city for two months, or simply not answer the door. Massive over-reaction and a huge pain in the neck all the same. The German link talks about "must leave the country". But sure, the source of information could be wrong. either way, I am not surprised. I also wonder how it can enforced if you have a visa that's still valid. Quote
roddy Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:49 PM Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:49 PM Yeah, the English article says quite explicitly " China plans to order all foreign students to leave the country before the Olympic Games in August", but the only source is a 'spokesperson' at Beida who says you have to leave 'Beijing', and that it applies to all universities in 'Beijing.' Quote
flameproof Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:53 PM Author Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:53 PM but the only source is a 'spokesperson' at Beida who says you have to leave 'Beijing', and that it applies to all universities in 'Beijing.' A university spokesperson could only say that the universities are closed, he can close the door to the school, but hardly ask students to leave the country. There is obviously some clarification needed. Quote
roddy Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:59 PM Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 01:59 PM Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath for that . . . Quote
flameproof Posted April 17, 2008 at 02:00 PM Author Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 02:00 PM It's already demented by the foreign office: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,548071,00.html Seems all can stay, for now, but tomorrow is another day.... Quote
imron Posted April 17, 2008 at 02:04 PM Report Posted April 17, 2008 at 02:04 PM A careful reading of the article makes it sound more like Beijing, rather than all of China I'd also be curious as to how this would actually be enforced. Can't see why you couldn't go and sit in another city for two months,Hence the reason everyone would need to leave the country. No good granting visas to students in Shanghai, who then decided to come to Beijing for the Olympics. Quote
lgna2000 Posted April 18, 2008 at 02:58 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 02:58 AM I don't think it is true. It dosen't post on any Chinese authority webside, also Government did not formally notice every foreign student to be out of China. Rumor stop at wisdom. Quote
mr.stinky Posted April 18, 2008 at 03:32 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 03:32 AM "Beijing - China plans to order all foreign students to leave the country before the Olympic Games in August, strictly regulate the issuing of business and tourist visas, and deport refugees, sources said on Thursday. 'Even if you have to continue your studies in September, you need to leave Beijing in July and August,' a spokeswoman for Beijing University told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa. " ********************* my interpretations is that a beida spokesdude told the german press that all students needed to leave beijing during the olympics, but meaning all students in the dorms had to get out to make room for housing the thousands of volunteers. given the rents in beijing, leaving the city would be understandable. the reporter perhaps misunderstood, not knowing that beijing and china are not quite the same thing. (as to refugees, i read somewhere that there are only 186 in china according to some un office that tracks that sort a thing.) Quote
lilongyue Posted April 18, 2008 at 03:32 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 03:32 AM I just called the U.S. embassy in Beijing, and they hadn't heard anything about it. I'm going to speak to someone at my school about it, and I think I'll try calling the embassy again after a few days, just to make sure. P.S. Just called one of my teachers, they also hadn't heard anything about it. Quote
lgna2000 Posted April 18, 2008 at 06:34 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 06:34 AM This is absolutely not true. If you guys see this,but actually print in Chinese. http://www.huanqiu.com/first/2008-04/94321.html Quote
roddy Posted April 18, 2008 at 06:40 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 06:40 AM Hmmm, do the Germans have any supermarkets we can boycott? Quote
imron Posted April 18, 2008 at 06:47 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 06:47 AM No, but they have luxury cars. I hereby declare that I won't be buying any German luxury cars in the near future Luckily, by the time I have enough money to purchase such a vehicle, this whole mess will have blown over and I can reassess my decision. Quote
Poemba Posted April 18, 2008 at 08:24 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 08:24 AM I just heard this story is true. I read it all in the newspapers here in Holland. They have not yet confirmed why they are doing this, but they wil soon. So this really sucks!!! So about 10.000students must leave the country and all the summer courses are cancelled. Crazy country.. Quote
Lu Posted April 18, 2008 at 08:50 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 08:50 AM The Taipei Times has it too. But. That it's in the papers doesn't mean its true. Looking from this story, it's a rather vague rumour, quoting that same Beida spokeswoman (nameless), some other people who have heard about it, and the only source who would surely have correct information, 'a foreign ministry official' says he doesn't know a thing about it. As does the only person quoted by name, a Taiwanese official. I am guessing that most of the article was ripped straight from the wires, and that all the journalist did was call that official. Poemba I'm sorry to tell you but reporting on China-related news in Dutch newspapers is huilen met de pet op. At least for NRC and Volkskrant, I don't know what you're reading. Quote
renzhe Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM This story is lol. I'll bet you anything that nothing of the sort will happen. Some good old political pressure from the media. Quote
imron Posted April 18, 2008 at 11:35 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 11:35 AM This story is lol. I'll bet you anything that nothing of the sort will happen.How much do you want to bet?Although I'm sure students with existing visas won't be kicked out, I think students looking to renew their visas during this time are going to be in a tight spot. Quote
renzhe Posted April 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM Report Posted April 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM I'm sure they'll do some serious tightening of visas during the Olympics, but I'm also pretty sure that they are not going to "kick all foreign students out of China in July and August", and also sure that they are not going to kick them all out of Beijing for two months. Quote
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