grammar questions

[skyblue]

hello

i was just wondering, does anyone know, why does the verb da have to be repeated in the follwoing:

他累是打球打的。

also, is there a difference between 的 and 得, can they be interchanged?

finally, does this make sense:

风消损烂一箩箩

any help much appreciated. thanks very much before hand.

[monto]

i was just wondering, does anyone know, why does the verb da have to be repeated in the follwoing:

他累是打球打的。

Can't tell why, just feel it's natural. we always say so. In addition, we can have:

他口干是说话说的。他眼花是看书看的。他脚疼是走路走的。。。。。。。

also, is there a difference between 的 and 得, can they be interchanged?

To talk strict, they can't. Sometimes they look as if interchanged, but actually not, mean differently. For example,

说的好 -------------- 说得好

better to say ------ well said

finally, does this make sense:

风消损烂一箩箩

I think it describes fruits or vegetables gone bad seriously.

[iry123]

i am chinese ,i think i can anwser the second question.

the use of 的：for example , you say beautiful girl in english , in chinese ,it means 美丽的女孩 。the word used before 的 is adjective. the word afer 的 is a noun

the use of 得 ：the word before 得 is a verb,the word after 得 is an adverb . such as

玩得好

[imron]

See also this thread.

[HashiriKata]

Can't tell why' date=' just feel it's natural. we always say so. In addition, we can have:

他口干是说话说的。他眼花是看书看的。他脚疼是走路走的。。。。。。。[/quote']

My guess is these sentences may have come about from the following:

他说话说得口干。 (=> 他口干是说话说得。) => 他口干是说话说的。

他看书看得眼花。 (=> 他眼花是看书看得。) => 他眼花是看书看的。

他打球打得累。 (=> 他累是打球打得。) => 他累是打球打的。

[monto]

My guess is these sentences may have come about from the following:

他说话说得口干。 (=> 他口干是说话说得。) => 他口干是说话说的。

他看书看得眼花。 (=> 他眼花是看书看得。) => 他眼花是看书看的。

他打球打得累。 (=> 他累是打球打得。) => 他累是打球打的。

It looks ok, but still geves no answer to the 'why' (logical reason for the repeating of the verb).

他说话说得口干 ------------------- 他话说得口干

他看书看得眼花 ------------------- 他书看得眼花

他打球打得很累 ------------------- 他球打得很累

[HashiriKata]

It looks ok, but still geves no answer to the 'why' (logical reason for the repeating of the verb).

他说话说得口干 ------------------- 他话说得口干

他看书看得眼花 ------------------- 他书看得眼花

他打球打得很累 ------------------- 他球打得很累

Why? Because there’s this law in Chinese stipulating that it’s illegal for the Chinese verb to have two partners at once (aka the ”object” & ”complement”). For this reason, you often see either the two parners are split (with the verb standing in between), or the verb will have to clone itself into two to marry both. This is the so-called “monogamy law” and you may find references to it in Google.

[skyblue]

hey HashiriKata

thanks that helps. i don't really need a why.

(oh i just saw i originally asked why. but that's not really what i meant )

[monto]

Why? Because there’s this law in Chinese stipulating that it’s illegal for the Chinese verb to have two partners at once (aka the ”object” & ”complement”). For this reason, you often see either the two parners are split (with the verb standing in between), or the verb will have to clone itself into two to marry both. This is the so-called “monogamy law” and you may find references to it in Google.

That sounds logical! good story, I miss the law.