rob07 Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:13 AM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:13 AM (edited) A part of the Grand First Episode Project -- See this thread for more info. 7th May:奋斗. Follows the trials and tribulations of a cohort of fresh graduates in Beijing as they struggle to cope with job-hunting, love, and plot twists. Emule - tudou - tudou2 Didn't see a post for this so I thought I would kick it off. I don't normally go much for these angst ridden things, as I just want to take all the characters and slap them, but I'm still at the stage where anything in Chinese is fun as long as I can more or less understand it, and it was well done for what it was, so I had a good time watching it. I don't plan to watch anymore in the foreseeable future however ... EDIT: Resources for watching: Episode 1: Vocabulary - Summary - Language - Transcript - Softsubs Episode 2: Vocabulary - Summary - Language - Transcript Episode 3: Vocabulary - Summary - Language - Transcript Episode 4: Vocabulary - Summary - Language - Transcript Episode 5: Vocabulary - Summary - Language - Transcript (partial) Episode 6: Vocabulary - Summary - Language - Transcript Episode 7: Vocabulary - Summary - Language Episode 8: Vocabulary Episode 9: Vocabulary Episode 10: Vocabulary Episode 11: Vocabulary Episode 12: Vocabulary Episode 13-14: Vocabulary Episode 15: Vocabulary Episode 16-20: Vocabulary Episode 21-25: Vocabulary- Summary - Language - Transcript Episode 26-30: Vocabulary Episode 31-32: Vocabulary fendou ep.1.doc fendou ep.2 complete.txt fendou ep.6 complete.txt fendou ep.3 complete.txt fendou_4_complete_transcript.txt Edited June 6, 2012 at 01:10 PM by renzhe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atitarev Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM I like the series, although I only watched 2 episodes so far. I put files converted to avi and watch on my Pocket PC. I don't understand very well but it's quite interesting still. I like Lu Tao 陆涛 and 夏琳 Xia Lin. http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Struggle Beginning I have found: 你们说要是他们真不给我学位不至于 不就是一次作弊吗 学校也不能毁了你一辈子 他们要不给我找人 咱们先礼后兵 据说小钟去年就是这么干的 他怎么干的呀 他买了一点心盒子望校长室一放 管校长要文凭 校长不给 他唰 从背后抽出一把刀 然后就跟校长说 校长 我这辈子交你手上了 您要让我过不去 您想想 您能过得去吗 那后来呢 校长开始说 把你东西拿回去 我不收礼 完了小钟把刀往案子上这么一插 我问你后来呢 小钟现在是工科学士啊 Song lyrics ("I'm fine"): 有你在的冬天总下雪我不知道冷 就算再寒冷 春来了花开了你走了 我留在这里哪里也不去 可是我好爱你 想和你能永远 永远在一起 你在地球的另一面 我怎么告诉你 夏天的雨来了我看着 潮湿的草地好像走着你 我的心奇怪的伤心着 酸酸的眼睛看不到未来 But I'm fine I'm fine and I'll try try to forget you (试图忘记你 I don't like (尽管不喜欢) but I want try (但我愿意尝试) But I'm fine I'm fine and I'll try try to forget you I don't like but I want try 深呼吸空气里有我们 爱情的味道可你闻不到 可你闻不到 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:10 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:10 PM It isn't really all that angst-ridden, and actually gets quite interesting in later episodes when Lu Tao's natural father comes into play. I agree about all the characters needing a slap to the head though, however some of them come across as quite ok. My favourites are Huazi and Lulu, who seem far more grounded in reality than the others. I like Lu Tao 陆涛You've gotta be kidding right? Lu Tao is an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atitarev Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM I missed some dialogues completely. Why? He is not exactly a faithful lover.Because of the way he treated or mistreated Mi Lai (米莱)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob07 Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:00 PM Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:00 PM So Lu Tao and Xia Lin get married? How many episodes in is that? She doesn't go to France then presumably? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:02 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:02 PM No, not just because of the way he treated Mi Lai, but because he is a self-centered and arrogant and seems to only care about himself. This comes across not just in his love life, but also his career and other aspects of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:07 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:07 PM So Lu Tao and Xia Lin get married? How many episodes in is that?Not by episode 16 at any rate. Actually, that poster has quite a few spoilers in it if it's true In the episode I just watched, Lu Tao and Xia Lin have just broken up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:44 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:44 PM Don't worry about spoilers or no spoilers on this one....technically there aren't any (sh) The whole thing is so messed up at different times you will think it is actually real life Okay so joking aside it is a good show but you do get REALLY annoyed with lu tao for the most part... Out of all of them I like 华子 the absolute best and really 米莱 too but her for different reasons. Her character is kind of salt that just flavors the show. But hua zi is successful in so much but leads the most normal and has the most set backs at the same time. Probably one of the best Chinese shows I've watched.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:56 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 01:56 PM Mi Lai is just too psycho-stalkerish for me. I'll agree that she does add flavour to the show though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted May 8, 2008 at 02:04 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 02:04 PM Thanks for starting the thread, Rob. This show I liked at the start and had high hopes for it, but I gave up at some point - can't remember exactly well. The problem for me was not so much that Lu Tao was annoying, although he was - I can handle an annoying character or two. It was the way he just happened to have a gazillionaire dad turn up a few episodes in - from that point anything involving Lu Tao was just silly. For my money they'd have been better off having his dad being a well-off, but not super-rich, businessman who helped him get started, meant he had an easier time than his mates, but still had to 奋斗 a bit they could have kept the same themes and had a more realistic story. That said, the other characters are generally good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted May 8, 2008 at 02:08 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 02:08 PM Mi Lai is just too psycho-stalkerish for me. I'll agree that she does add flavour to the show though. That's kind of why I liked her..... Without her, the show could be pretty dull at times, but her stalker side can add a lot of interesting turns to the show. She can get annoying though as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 8, 2008 at 02:53 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 at 02:53 PM I like the effect that the millionaire dad has though. He's trying to shape Lu Tao into himself and Lu Tao resisting that is the only thing I like about Lu Tao so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted May 9, 2008 at 10:42 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 at 10:42 PM (edited) This show was very interesting. Although it occasionally delves into soap-opera sillyness, it was relatively realistic, with modern language and setting. I'll probably watch a few more and then decide between watching this one or empty mirror to the end. Or neither. Edited July 2, 2009 at 01:48 PM by renzhe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM Ok, I've finished watching this now. Overall, my favourite character is still Huazi. I think actually Lu Tao would have been more likeable if he didn't act like a child all the time. At least he grew up a little bit towards the end. I really liked the two conversations he had with his two dads (biological father and step-father) in the last episode. What he said to Xu Zhisen was spot on, and you could see each point striking home like a blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atitarev Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM The first episode's transcript is available here (scroll down): http://relearnchinese.wordpress.com/ or directly: http://relearnchinese.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/奋斗01-4721/ Summary: http://gb.cri.cn/9964/2007/08/13/421@1715696.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:42 AM Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:42 AM Awesome. Is that your site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atitarev Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:59 AM Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:59 AM No way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted September 22, 2008 at 06:42 PM Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 at 06:42 PM OK, a short update here. A couple of words are missing, and I can't find them, if anyone has ideas, they can fill in the blanks. --- Plot Summary --- We follow a group of graduates. One of them, 高强 fails to graduate, which leads to a fight with parents at home, after which he suddenly commits suicide. The reason for failing was his addiction to computer games, and the rest of the group vows never to play again. They end up partying in a restaurant with the rest of the class, which leads to a drunken brawl with the people from the next table, and they end up in the police station. 向南's father is a policeman, though, so he makes a phone call and they all get out. 陆涛 is in a taxi with his girlfriend, 米莱, and they run into 夏琳, her best friend. They are invited to her fashion show tomorrow. At home, 向南 gets a lecture from his parents. After the fashion show, they go to a restaurant with 夏琳 and her boyfriend. She is about to go to France, and 陆涛 pulls a party trick, getting 夏琳 to recite 20 phone numbers, one of which is hers. He remembers them all, and later calls her and they have an affair. 米莱 is at her friend 杨晓芸's place, and arranges to rent an appartment from her mother -- she wants to move in with 陆涛. The mother rents her an appartment, but apparently takes a markup in the process, which angers 晓芸. 陆涛 and 夏琳 share some more secret romantic moments, and have obviously fallen for each other, while still having reservations. --- Summary End --- 至于 zhì yú - as for / as to / to go so far as to 作弊 zuò bì - fraud / to cheat / to plagiarize 毁 huǐ - defame / to slander 先礼后兵 xiān lǐ hòu bīng - peaceful measures before using force 文凭 wén píng - diploma 烧焦 shāo jiāo - scorch 头破血流 tóu pò xuè liú - I'm guessing this is something like "blood and sweat", great effort 善意 shàn yì - goodwill 火急 办学 bàn xué - to run a school 声誉 shēng yù - fame 大款 传卷 求职 qiú zhí - seek employment 简历 jiǎn lì - Curriculum Vitae (CV) / résumé 等于 děng yú - to equal 泡 pào - to dawdle, to waste time 网吧 wǎng ba - internet cafe 鼠标垫 shǔ biāo diàn - mouse pad 下岗工人 xià gǎng gōng rén - laid-off worker 孝顺 xiào shùn - filial piety 珍惜 zhēn xī - treasure / value / cherish 遗体 yí tǐ - remains (of a dead person) 场面 chǎng miàn - scene / occasion 免得 miǎn de - so as not to / so as to avoid 孤单 gū dān - lone / loneliness 依然 yī rán - still / as before 时髦 shí máo - in vogue / fashionable 酷 kù - cool 脆弱 cuì ruò - weak / frail 垃圾 lā jī - trash 意义 yì yì - meaning / significance 毕业 bì yè - graduation / to graduate 赔钱 péi qián - lose money 鲁迅 Lǔ Xùn - Lu Xun (1881-1936) famous modern Chinese writer 鼎鼎 dǐng dǐng - great / very important 铁磁 地道 dì dao - authentic / genuine / typical 菜瓜 校花 xiào huā - the prettiest girl of the school / school beauty queen 私奔 sī bēn - to elope 白领 bái lǐng - white collar 复印 fù yìn - to photocopy / to duplicate a document 鞠射 嘱咐 zhǔ fù - to tell / to exhort 士帽 乱七八糟 luàn qī bā zāo - everything in disorder, mess 姿势 zī shì - posture / position 猴急 抱怨 bào yuàn - to complain / to grumble 辞职 cí zhí - resign 防针 fáng zhēn - vaccine? 时装设计 shí zhuāng shè jì - fashion design 愤世嫉俗 意犹未尽 yì yóu wèi jìn - to wish to continue sth / to have not fully expressed oneself 过分 guò fèn - excessive / undue 彩屏手机 cǎi píng shǒu jī - mobile phone with a colour display (??) 严肃 yán sù - solemn 讽刺 fěng cì - to satirize / to mock 随波逐流 suí bō zhú liú - to drift with the waves and go with the flow 控制 kòng zhì - control / to exercise control over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted September 27, 2008 at 07:08 PM Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 at 07:08 PM I'm going to watch the rest of this show. Is anyone interested in making a group effort? atitarev is interested, and maybe we can get a couple of other people onboard. We could discuss the plot, help each other out with sticky parts, or discuss the more difficult vocabulary. If you've always wanted to watch a Chinese series, but found it too difficult, this is your chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1101 Posted September 28, 2008 at 02:12 AM Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 at 02:12 AM im interested.. are we starting at the very first episode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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