bones Posted September 6, 2008 at 11:42 PM Report Posted September 6, 2008 at 11:42 PM Hello, I'm reading a children's story and in it there is this phrase 振振有词. However, my Chinese-English dictionary states that the phrase is 振振有辞 instead. Could somebody please tell me which one is correct? What is the difference between 词 and 辞? The dictionary states that (among other meanings): 词 = lines / word / classical poetry using a set pattern 辞 = diction / early form of classical Chinese poetry Thanks. Quote
Hofmann Posted September 6, 2008 at 11:57 PM Report Posted September 6, 2008 at 11:57 PM Both will work. 振振有詞 seems to be more popular in Simplified Chinese, while 振振有辭 is more popular in Traditional. Quote
Hanyu'sWay Posted September 6, 2008 at 11:57 PM Report Posted September 6, 2008 at 11:57 PM 振振有辞 is correct. Quote
bones Posted September 7, 2008 at 11:05 AM Author Report Posted September 7, 2008 at 11:05 AM Thank you for the replies. Quote
A life of study Posted September 7, 2008 at 06:29 PM Report Posted September 7, 2008 at 06:29 PM They are etymologically the same character, and usage is often overlapping, espcially in 词典vs 辞典. But there are usages where one is preferred or the other: 辞别 for example. 单词 is another example where the usages don't overlap. However 振振有词 or 振振有辞 could be either. On baidu.com, the former has 698,000 examples and the latter 344,000. It is not a fantizi vs jiantizi thing because these words have 詞 and 辭 as their fantizi forms. That is not to say that 辞 might not be more common in Taiwan, and I don't have a guoyu dictionary and so I can't say whether the Taiwan Mandarin authorities recommend either form as better. Just that both forms are in fact correct. Quote
bones Posted September 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM Author Report Posted September 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM Thanks. Just googled these phrases out of curiousity. 振振有词 has 944 000 hits, while 振振有辞 has 264 000 hits. Quote
calibre2001 Posted September 11, 2008 at 09:51 PM Report Posted September 11, 2008 at 09:51 PM Does 振有 mean 有? This site suggests so - http://dict.yodao.com/search?q=%E6%8C%AF%E6%9C%89&btnIndex=&ue=utf8&keyfrom=dict.index However, when googling it, I find that it seems to be a popular name. Quote
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