manuparis Posted January 25, 2009 at 08:36 AM Report Posted January 25, 2009 at 08:36 AM Hi, I have a master's degree essay to do, which subject is : "influence of the chinese dialects on the pronunciation of French language". I have to analyse the phonetics particularity of the different "chinese languages" (putonghua, wuhua, minnanhua, yuehua...). Despite of Wikipedia, have you got some links or some books to advice me ? Thanks a lot ! Manu Quote
Scoobyqueen Posted January 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM Report Posted January 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM I cant really see how French pronunciation would have been influenced by Chinese dialects. Do you mean how people speaking these dialects pronounce French? Your first starting point should be a literature search if this if this is for your master’s thesis (rather than a course essay). Quote
manuparis Posted January 26, 2009 at 04:50 PM Author Report Posted January 26, 2009 at 04:50 PM Yes, that's my meaning : how people speaking these dialects influence French pronunciation. I give you an example : in Sichuan, Hubei and Hunan provinces, they tend to confuse "L" and "N", for me this is a dialect pronunciation that will influence foreign languages pronunciation (btw it influences mandarin pronunciation too). Quote
Hofmann Posted January 27, 2009 at 04:01 AM Report Posted January 27, 2009 at 04:01 AM In that case, I think your title is misleading. It implies that such regions' French pronunciation influences the standard. Quote
akdn Posted January 27, 2009 at 08:06 AM Report Posted January 27, 2009 at 08:06 AM (edited) English teachers may be familiar with this book. There are explanations of the specific pronunciation difficulties native speakers of various countries have when learning English as a second language. I wonder if French teachers have an equivalent? Edited January 27, 2009 at 08:07 AM by akdn missed out a word Quote
manuparis Posted January 27, 2009 at 02:43 PM Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 at 02:43 PM I teach French in China Beijing, and I didn't know such a book exists or not... Quote
Madot Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM Report Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM As an academic in the area of language studies it seems to me that, as already suggested, the first thing you need to do is a proper litature search and literature review. Perhaps not much has been done on this topic. If so, you would need to compare the phonetic and then the phonemic systems of these dialects to French. Whatever sounds in French either do not exist or are not phonemic in the native language will cause difficulties. This would be the substance of your thesis. What adivce are you getting from your thesis supervisor? S/he should have some recommendations to start your lit review off. Mado Quote
manuparis Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM Author Report Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM My thesis supervisor is not so available, as she as 20+ students. But she adviced the same as you : first litterature and theory. Quote
Madot Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM Report Posted January 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM Sorry, I should have been more specific. Your lit reivew would, of course, include any work that has already been done on this specific topic, but before that, it would include all the theoretical stuff on lingistic interference, phonetics, phonemics, etc. THEN you would look at any work which applied this theory to your specific case, i.e. Chinese dialect speakers of French. Having identified the lack of previous research in the area, then you would look at the phonetic and phonemic systems yourself. Busy supervisors are always a problem. Hope this helps. Mado Quote
Akarui Posted February 1, 2009 at 01:05 PM Report Posted February 1, 2009 at 01:05 PM If you're a french teacher, maybe you already know the "Guide pratique de prononciation française pour des apprenants chinois", by Hendrik J. Kockaert and Li Jiayi. If not, you can easily find it on amazon, and it is pretty cheap. Quote
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