Radical Charts Online?!

[geek_frappa]

If you show me yours, I'll show you mine....

[skylee]

This is from Lin Yutang Dictionary.

[geek_frappa]

very nice, skylee.

here is mine... ^_^

[Claw]

I tried going to you link, but it doesn't work.

[geek_frappa]

sorry, (let's try it again...)

you can download the PDF here. (11 x 17 document, that can be scaled automatically....)

http://www.primezero.com/pzdesk/radical_chart_50forms.pdf

[flameproof]

Old threat, still wonder about it:

How about a chart of simplified radicals? Preferably one I can print out in A3 and put in on the wall, best with Pinyin too.

And do I have to know all radicals? Or are there many which are only rarely used?

[skylee]

take a look -> http://www.fzepc.com/chinapoem/ListBS.asp

[Rrina]

sorry, (let's try it again...)

you can download the PDF here. (11 x 17 document, that can be scaled automatically....)

http://www.primezero.com/pzdesk/radi...rt_50forms.pdf

This link takes me to another page, not the radical list...

[HashiriKata]

This link takes me to another page, not the radical list...

The link was posted some years ago...

[flameproof]

I am still searching, I may go to Shenzhen Book City later to find hopefully this book:

http://www.sinolingua.com.cn/en/product.asp?id=1164

I found this online, 40 common radicals:

http://www.itcn.nl/jeffrey/jjh-IC/IC-Clarity/40RadsSC-Poster.pdf (simpl.)

http://www.itcn.nl/jeffrey/jjh-IC/IC-Clarity/40RadsTC-Poster.pdf (trad.)

That's about what I like to get, but for more radicals. I think I start with those 40 first and see if I can apply the Heisig method. No point in waiting for Heisig's Hanzi book, which may, or may not come out.

Do I need to know all radicals? I obviously don't need very rare once.

[Rrina]

The link was posted some years ago..

Now I feel as if I've been talking with ghosts..

[skylee]

sorry' date=' (let's try it again...)

you can download the PDF here. (11 x 17 document, that can be scaled automatically....)

[url']http://www.primezero.com/pzdesk/radi...rt_50forms.pdf[/url]

This link takes me to another page, not the radical list...

I found this online, 40 common radicals:

I just wonder ... are the full lists of radicals that I posted at #2 (traditional) and #7 (simplified) that bad that you guys have to go for a non-existent list (#5) or incomplete list (#10). This is discouraging.

[ziyi star]

here you have another webpage where you can find the chinese radicals, the basic strokes and the stroke order. it's very useful

http://www.euroasiasoftware.com/english/chinese/learn/grundstreckeng.html#Radikaler

and flameproof:

That's about what I like to get, but for more radicals. I think I start with those 40 first and see if I can apply the Heisig method. No point in waiting for Heisig's Hanzi book, which may, or may not come out.

what do you mean by the Heisig method?

[Rrina]

I just wonder ... are the full lists of radicals that I posted at #2 (traditional) and #7 (simplified) that bad that you guys have to go for a non-existent list (#5) or incomplete list (#10). This is discouraging.

Oh, no, it doesn't mean that at all... I basically did not read the thread, as is evident by my two posts... Just saw that link and tried it almost without even knowing what it was about.

I haven't started to study characters yet, by the way. I'm rather afraid when I look at those tables. But!

[flameproof]

I was lucky and got "The Most Common Chinese Radicals" yesterday in Shenzhen.

http://www.sinolingua.com.cn/en/product.asp?id=1164

If you are around, Book City on Shennan Lu has a few more copies. It's not cheap at RMB 27, but worth it.

The book has 100 radicals, plus 8 short form radicals. They didn't really explain why 100, but it seems that some radicals are more in use then others, and maybe, after you hit 100 you get into the more rare and obscure radicals.

The way its presented reminds me a bit on "Heisig", it also makes a little story, and you can certainly use this book for practicing the Heisig Method. Since somebody asked what Heisig is, here are the first 120 pages of his book "Remembering the Kanji":

http://www.nanzan-u.ac.jp/SHUBUNKEN/publications/miscPublications/pdf/RK4/RK4-00.pdf

I think I base my reading on the "sinolingua" book. If I come across a radical no in there I would just draw it out according to that format.

[trien27]

Check out http://www.zhongwen.com, click Radical hyperlink under Dictionary heading. Sorry, but this site uses Traditional Chinese, even though it uses the Pinyin for Chinese ( =zhongwen is the website's domain.)

Note: Traditional character dictionary uses more radicals than a Simplified character dictionary.

[trien27]

Flameproof,

"Remembering the Kanji" (Parts 1 & 2) doesn't really give you radicals, but rather parts of characters that can't stand alone on their own which only the Japanese people called primatives in addition to other characters & phrases. There are 5 or 6 Japanese made characters which doesn't have any pronounciation or meaning in Chinese. Some of the mnemonics for remembering the characters (especially the Japanese simplified version of the Traditional Chinese characters) are ridiculous(read "humorously etymologically incorrect" according to the ancient Chinese forms from which these Japanese made characters derived from). Just compare the Japanese form to the modern Traditional Chinese form of the characters.

[flameproof]

trien27

I am more intrigued by the learning method. I am aware that Heisig talks about "primitives" and he does specifically says that he's not talking about "radicals". And of course the book is not suitable since Kanji and Hanzi do not 100% match. Still, the method can be applied to whatever you want to apply it for.

[trien27]

Flameproof:

One learning method is probably by rote memorization. See a word, read it or write it down, then try to memorize it.

Another method is similar to the above: Write the character you're trying to learn repeatedly. Knowing the meaning is easy if you can find out the radical.

Yet a third would be a little difficult: Go to the library, look up Chinese characters in their ancient forms, so you'd know how it was first written : Example: wo (I or me) was made up of 2 weapons (each held by a soldier who were fighting in the many wars in ancient China: Meaning - If I defeated you using my weapon, your weapon belongs to me now.)

Hard?

Note: Japanese Kanji uses Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese plus Japanese created ones. In the Ching dynasty, the Kangxi/Kang Hsi dictionary has 540 radicals. Later on because the variants has been eliminated and the standard forms retained, reducing them to the currently 214 radicals. Simplified Chinese is a reversion to using Chinese variants using different forms (Kaishu, Caoshu, etc...) & created simplification, most of which were used by poets & landscape artists/calligraphers.

[Nephand]

These lists posted back in #10:

http://www.itcn.nl/jeffrey/jjh-IC/IC...sSC-Poster.pdf (simpl.)

http://www.itcn.nl/jeffrey/jjh-IC/IC...sTC-Poster.pdf (trad.)

[see post #10 for clickables]

were exactly the kind of thing I was looking for in a radical list. Something I can easily print off and take away from the computer. All concise, shows how the radical changes when it's part of a character (if it does) and the meaning. Thanks!

Just need that for all of them! It's one of my favourite bits of New Practical Chinese Reader vol.1 - the radicals and their names being given, but they're quite spread out.