geek_frappa Posted July 8, 2004 at 06:34 AM Report Posted July 8, 2004 at 06:34 AM if i person calls a woman a Shanghai Princess, is that a good or bad thing? what exactly is a Shanghai Princess?? very curious to know... Quote
galitonwu Posted July 8, 2004 at 09:27 AM Report Posted July 8, 2004 at 09:27 AM Shanghai Princess, I don't know Quote
zackzhou Posted July 8, 2004 at 10:46 PM Report Posted July 8, 2004 at 10:46 PM I don't know either. it sounds like a stereotype Quote
sunyata Posted July 8, 2004 at 11:15 PM Report Posted July 8, 2004 at 11:15 PM shanghai princess only exists in your mind...so you tell us what it is Quote
ala Posted July 10, 2004 at 12:00 AM Report Posted July 10, 2004 at 12:00 AM we don't use the term in shanghai Quote
Guest Yau Posted July 16, 2004 at 07:08 PM Report Posted July 16, 2004 at 07:08 PM I think Shanghai princess should only appear in the table dance or bisthol, and the nickname is still popular in some red-light districts in the so-called "Oriental" regions. The nickname probably was originated in the french colonial period in 19-20 century in Shanghai that was notorious for free-trade opiums, gangs, and prosititutes. So i believe you should avoid using it to refer to any girl. However, there's a similar word for man, but the meaning is quite different. There's an entertaining businessman in hongkong whose ancestor came from shanghai. As he's the boss of the New World, one of most trendy places in shanghai, his nickname is coined as 上海姑爺 . (Shanghai Guye) 姑爺 (Guye) is someone who must be rich, have a taste of lifestyle. He may also be dissolute in his conducts and inherit lot of money from his ancestor, not able and necessary to work. However, all these attributes aren't always linked up with 姑爺. That's why the boss of New World accepts this nickname. In hongkong, 姑爺仔 (A little 姑爺) also refers to someone who earns their living by forcing his girlfriend(S) to be prostitutes. Quote
maybedaisy Posted July 19, 2004 at 02:09 PM Report Posted July 19, 2004 at 02:09 PM in my opinion,shanghai princess figures that shanghai women/girls maybe more self-conceit than women in other palces in china. you know that ,shanghai is the most prosperous region in china ,so the girls and women pride themselves for their fashion and richness . their behaviors look like a pricess. it's just my individual opinion Quote
Mark Baker Posted October 15, 2005 at 04:19 AM Report Posted October 15, 2005 at 04:19 AM Well, I read that topic title and automatically assumed it would be a female Shanghai native with the characteristics typically ascribed to the U.S.'s so-called "Jewish American Prinessses." From http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=J.A.P. Just substitute "Shanghai" wherever "Jewish" appears below; could that be what the term represents? J.A.P.Jewish American Princess; a bitchy, spoiled, golddigging Jewish female; Raised in a wealthy household, selfish, high-maintenance to the point of sheer insanity, stuck-up, the worst woman to date/marry on planet earth, yet deemed the most desirable by jewish mothers, who attempt to force them down the throats of their unsuspecting sons (all for the sake of preserving "Jewish Heritage.") A Female who collects designer fashion items and status symbols (including men). Bane to the existence of dating men. The key to an unhappy relationship for the rest of your life. Large breasted, outwardly attractive, internally spoiled, greedy, complicated, self-righteous, and obnoxiously difficult and overbearing jewish female. Just a possibility. Quote
laohu489 Posted October 26, 2005 at 05:09 AM Report Posted October 26, 2005 at 05:09 AM when i lived in shanghai, I would (when i deigned to be near them) hear foreigners say it. it is a 凶 woman, typically shanghainese, expert at 撒娇, filled with 哼 and 呸. decked out in prada and lv and burbury, whatever the fashion is now (sorry, i have been gone since early this year, so I don't know). If you call a shanghai princess on her phone and ask her where she is, the best answer you will ever get is "外面". one is too many and five are not enough. Quote
Lu Posted October 31, 2005 at 03:06 PM Report Posted October 31, 2005 at 03:06 PM I do love that answer. It doesn't even mean 'outside', you might well be sitting in a restaurant or at a friend's place if you are zai waimian. It would never work in English (or Dutch, or any other language I know): where are you? Not at home. Yes, but where[i/] not at home? In the same category: With who are you? Gen pengyou. (can be male, female, one or many) or Gen Mingming he tamen. (tamen can be male, female, one or many) Are you coming over tomorrow? No, I don't have time, you shi. (can be any shi, including sleeping, watching tv, or doing absolutely nothing) Quote
Goujian Posted April 24, 2010 at 08:24 AM Report Posted April 24, 2010 at 08:24 AM I personally think it's a stereotype. Being shanghainese/of shanghainese descent myself, not many shanghainese natives act like this. Maybe a small minority. ala is right. shanghainese don't even use the term 'shanghai princess'. Quote
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