Russian female can't study in Beijing!

[marcos2003]

I try to help my girlfriend from russia to study in Beijing. For whatever reason, I check with many universities, they all say they can't issue her a JW202 form. Anyone in Beijing experience similiar difficulty? anyway I can solve this trouble?

[adrianlondon]

Might be related to this :

http://www.chinaconsulate.khb.ru/chn/xwdt/t538360.htm

Seriously though, did they say that the only reason they wouldn't issue the paperwork for the F/X visa was because her nationality is Russian?

[marcos2003]

yes, this is serious, i ask the international student office at many universities, they didn't tell me why, just say in her case, they can't issue her a jw202 form, not only russian, i think females from kaza too!!!

i also ask the agent i use when i apply to blcu, they tell me they can't help me and ask me to contact directly with the university office.

[roddy]

And they specified female? If so, I'd guess this is an attempt to limit the number of women from the former USSR / Mongolia coming in to work in the world's oldest profession. Bit heavy-handed to just ban entire genders from certain nations, but I can't see any reason for just not allowing the women in.

Get your girlfriend to check with Russian study-in-China agencies - they'll know what's happening. Maybe. Or the Russian Embassy here in China, if they pick up the phone at all.

[marcos2003]

i check with the agent, they can't help. It is non-sense because of that problem and not issue jw202 to all females from russia. my girlfriend is a university student, i give the university office all school documents, passport copy, don't know what happen now in beijing.

i will check with russian embassy see if they can help.

[peekay]

Must be a brand new policy if it is, because I know several Russian, Kaza and Mongolian girls who just arrived here in Beijing to start their semesters at BLCU...

[randall_flagg]

The best of luck to you and your friend! It'll be interesting how this turns out. If it really is a new policy, this could turn out to be somewhat of a foreign relations powder keg. Hope its just a miscommunication somewhere along the line!

[gougou]

Must be a brand new policy if it is

Actually I heard about this from a friend working at a language school before the Olympics already. Women from Russia (in a certain age range only) as well as Nigerians were virtually banned back then.

Could you maybe ask the girls you mentioned how they got here, peekay?

[peekay]

I can ask.

The Russian girl I met had taken a 3-month course here before (I think last year) and now back in Beijing for a semester course. The two Kazakh girls just arrived.

It's possible they're all scholarship students but I don't think so. It seems there are a lot of Russian girls at BLCU besides the girl I know. All of them are in that "certain age range" except for the Mongolian girl who is really young. All quite attractive too, I must admit.

[marcos2003]

this semester is ok, i know many from russia and kaza studying in beijing. i think the problem is for fall term, it may be a new policy. i know Nigerian are all banned unless they have scholarship, i worry same thing happen to russian girls now.

[randall_flagg]

Apart from the personal tragedy for the people immediately affected (girl studies Chinese for 3 years and wants to go to China to study but CAN'T), I am also concerned about foreign relations ramifications. I am not liking this at all!

[roddy]

Even if this is happening, and I'm not convinced it is, I don't think we need to worry about the diplomatic consequences. The conversation would go something like this:

China: By the way, we're not giving young Russian women student visas.

Russia: 'Kay. Want to buy some oil?

China: Sure. Listen, about Siberia . .

Russia: Still not selling. 88.

[self-taught-mba]

It is more the uni than the Edu Ministry or the Entry/Exit Dept.

Many uni.s have these unofficial policies of not letting in people from certain countries. There are Russian girls here. I know several. They come under more scrutiny though. Sometimes we can get someone into a uni when they would normally get rejected - but only because they will put the blame on us if because cooperate with them. We become the insurance so to speak for the uni.

[atitarev]

Your Russian friend can ask questions here. There are many Russians (men and women) who study or work in China, they frequent this site. Visa questions are very common here:

Eastern Hemisphere (Восточное Полушарие)

Eastern Hemisphere's Chinese visa subsection (ВСЁ О ВИЗАХ В КНР)

I am of Russian origin but I have been living in Australia in the last 11.5 years.

[marcos2003]

thank you, i will check the site.

[yersi]

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[BrandeX]

Based upon what I've noticed of Chinese attitudes towards black people, either told to me directly by them in conversations, or from what I have seen when I am out with black friends, I find it highly unlikely that the average Chinese "john" would solicit a black prostitute regardless.

[gougou]

I think Nigerians were blamed for other things; they seemed to make up the majority of drug dealers in Sanlitun for instance. By what I heard, their ban also was not gender- or age-specific. But again, that was before the Olympics; I'd have expected it to be lifted already.

[de.kunzan]

Hi all,

This is a really sad situation that the girl can not get a study visa without explaining any reason. I am also a girl from Russia living in Lasa at the moment (Xizang). I know two russian girls who managed to get an X visa to study in Tibet University last year, they're still studying here. I got an approval too, but because of my finacial situation I couldn't join the University. So what I am saying is, that this problem is not likely to be connected to China country's policy of not letting young russian or any girls in. I suspect, that there might be political issues. Did this girl have problems in getting L or any other visas in the past? Did she participate in any political demonstrations in the past? I know that in Tibet Univeristy some people were rejected because in their reccomendation letters there was a phrase like: "He likes Chinese culture a lot. He also travelled to China AND Tibet many times". The person got rejected because words "China" and "Tibet" in his reccomendation letter were put on same level, instead of writing "He travelled to China and China's Tibet many times". So you never know why they might reject you )