Daan Posted June 26, 2010 at 10:12 PM Report Posted June 26, 2010 at 10:12 PM I agree! Well, when I took the HSK last week, they didn't check my pencil, so I can't see it being a problem, unless your proctors decide to start nitpicking. Your characters might be harder to erase, though, because the paper they use is a bit weird, but if you bring a good eraser it should work just fine. Quote
volga_volga Posted July 9, 2010 at 10:13 AM Report Posted July 9, 2010 at 10:13 AM Can someone graciously provide a link to the word list for the new HSK (level 4)? It is said in this thread that it is available in Chinese somewhere at Hanban website, but I couldn't find it. Thanks! Quote
Daan Posted July 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM Report Posted July 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM I downloaded the attached PDF file from the Hanban website last month, but don't have the time now to look up where exactly I got it from. Here it is, anyway. The word list is at the end of the file. hks_2010_level_4.pdf Quote
volga_volga Posted July 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM Report Posted July 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM That's wonderful, thank you! it looks like it was posted on the Australian website of the Confucious Institute (I found the link to a similar file in an earlier post. For the others' benefit, here it is: http://www.confuciusinstitute.qut.edu.au/study/proficiency.jsp The sample tests provided by the Chinesetesting.cn do not contain word lists. Quote
edelweis Posted July 18, 2010 at 08:02 PM Report Posted July 18, 2010 at 08:02 PM I'm not sure I understand everything, but this page seems to indicate that the new HSK level 4 is considered as equivalent to the old HSK level 3 for university entrance purposes. Quote
BertR Posted July 18, 2010 at 08:32 PM Report Posted July 18, 2010 at 08:32 PM edelweis, I interpret the article in the same way. Hanban believes that these levels match: New HSK 4 = Old HSK 3 (Elementary C) New HSK 5 = Old HSK 6 (Intermediate C) New HSK 6 = Old HSK 9 (Advanced C) Both the old HSK and the new HSK can be used as required level. The school can choose which exam they follow. For the New HSK, New HSK 4 must be used as required level for the most undergraduate academic programs (with exception of Chinese medicine). I presume that for undergraduate/graduate studies in Chinese the requirement will also be higher (since this also used to be the case for the old HSK if I recall correctly). 1 Quote
rezaf Posted July 19, 2010 at 05:31 AM Report Posted July 19, 2010 at 05:31 AM So what happens to HSK level 10 to 12? Quote
rcloud19 Posted July 23, 2010 at 03:22 PM Report Posted July 23, 2010 at 03:22 PM Does anyone have the list of vocabulary for the new HSK in any form other than PDF? I am about to create an Anki deck for the new HSK and it would be great if I could just import the list. If not, I'll start typing them in and should have the deck ready to share in 2-3 weeks. 1 Quote
BertR Posted July 23, 2010 at 04:03 PM Report Posted July 23, 2010 at 04:03 PM Below the list I once compiled for the new HSK 4. It probably also contains extra words that were used in the example exam but were not in the original list. The format of the file is: CHARACTERS\tPINYIN\tMEANING\n with \t a TAB and \n a newline. I just exported this list from my own SRS software. Is this formatting ok for you? (I don't expect it would be a lot of work for me to export it in a different format) New HSK 4 I actually wanted to upload this list to this forum, but this doesn't seem to be possible. 4 Quote
rcloud19 Posted July 23, 2010 at 04:10 PM Report Posted July 23, 2010 at 04:10 PM Bert- Thanks, this will save me a lot of time. This weekend I'll add levels 5 & 6 to your list and probably go through the list and tag each item with their level. When it's done I'll post a link here as well as upload it Anki's shared decks. Quote
hanyu_xuesheng Posted July 23, 2010 at 07:08 PM Report Posted July 23, 2010 at 07:08 PM It seems that the above HSK4 vocab list is not very correct: e.g. "北半球 - bei3 ban4 qiu2 - the Northern Hemisphere" is not part of HSK level 4 vocab. The total number of vocab items should be exactly 1200, and that's not the case. See guideline: http://www.confuciusinstitute.qut.edu.au/study/hsk4.jsp {Thanks to everybody here to give me so many MINUSSES for this post :-) very funny... :o } 3 Quote
BertR Posted July 23, 2010 at 07:21 PM Report Posted July 23, 2010 at 07:21 PM It seems that the above HSK4 vocab list is not very correct:e.g. "北半球 - bei3 ban4 qiu2 - the Northern Hemisphere" is not part of HSK level 4 vocab. The total number of vocab items should be exactly 1200, and that's not the case. As I already wrote: It probably also contains extra words that were used in the example exam but were not in the original list. Yes, it also contains the words that are used in the exam, but were not in the word list. 3 Quote
hanyu_xuesheng Posted July 23, 2010 at 09:36 PM Report Posted July 23, 2010 at 09:36 PM Why so aggressive? Maybe you should remove the extra vocab, so that the data are the same like in the official list? Just a suggesstion... {Thanks to everybody here to give me so many MINUSSES for this post :-) very funny.... :o } 2 Quote
edelweis Posted July 24, 2010 at 05:25 AM Report Posted July 24, 2010 at 05:25 AM hanyu_xuesheng: BertR is doing us a favour. And I do not find merely highlighting a previously posted warning aggressive at all especially with the smiley. Maybe you can remove the extra words and post the improved list for everyone to enjoy. Just to prove you can too do something to help others instead of just complaining. Just so you know I gave you minusses and him plusses. But somehow his latest post still has -1 now. How very very strange. 1 Quote
hanyu_xuesheng Posted July 27, 2010 at 08:41 PM Report Posted July 27, 2010 at 08:41 PM You may copy and paste the HSK(new) level 1-4 vocab from this German website: New HSK-1 (CEF: "A1") Vocab (150 items) New HSK-2 (CEF: "A2") Vocab (300 items, 150 new, 150 from above) New HSK-3 (CEF: "B1") Vocab (600 items, 300 new, 300 from above) New HSK-4 (CEF: "B2") Vocab (1197 items, 3 items are dupl., 597 new, 600 from above) Hope that helps. :unsure: 1 Quote
hackinger Posted July 27, 2010 at 10:17 PM Report Posted July 27, 2010 at 10:17 PM Hi hanyu-xueshang, this website 'daily dose of chinese' is great (for German speakers). I appreciate the explanations for individual characters and will certainly consult it in the future. Thank you also to BertR for his list. Cheers hackinger Quote
rcloud19 Posted July 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM Report Posted July 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM Thanks hanyu-xueshang. I ended up finding that it was faster to just go ahead and type all the characters in rather than cross-reference to Bert's list and tag each item with their level. Anyway, I'm through 1,100 characters so far so I'll just continue this way. I'm using the Pinyin Toolkit for Anki, so it goes by pretty quickly, but I've been noticing errors on some single character words with tones, so that has been slowing me down a little bit. Anyway, I should be done with this in 2 weeks, 3 if it starts to get too tedious and I slow down my pace. 2 Quote
rcloud19 Posted July 30, 2010 at 06:09 PM Report Posted July 30, 2010 at 06:09 PM I just wanted to give an update in case anyone is following this. I'm through about 1,900 characters so far, but have run into a disturbing problem. Using the Pinyin Toolkit I am seeing the wrong pronunciation and/or meaning way too often, which worries me about the accuracy of the the list I've been compiling. So, if I continue this way I 'll have to double check each character individually which would take forever. So I'm thinking about switching up my approach. Rather than building a new list for the new HSK I'm going to take the old list, which seems to be readily available in xml form and tag the characters with the corresponding new level adding in the new characters as I find them and deleting the ones no longer used. I'm thinking this should go much quicker and, assuming I start with an accurate list, will be as accurate as possible. I've just started looking around at the old list and have a few that seem to vary a little in the definitions. So, is there one official list for the old HSK that is considered to be 100% accurate for pinyin and definition? Quote
Guest realmayo Posted July 31, 2010 at 08:19 AM Report Posted July 31, 2010 at 08:19 AM I *think* that if the old-HSK list was ever authoratitive, it was the chinese characters themselves that were authoratitive: the pinyin and translations were not, they were just added by people studying for the exam etc. I've definitely found quite a few mistakes in the old list in the past. If the NEW list is similar in this respect to the old list, then it would be a mistake to think that the list is telling you the "right way" (in terms of the HSK exam) to pronounce or translate certain words. I would advise using the characters as the source, and adding your own pronunciations and definitions. Quote
rcloud19 Posted July 31, 2010 at 03:00 PM Report Posted July 31, 2010 at 03:00 PM realmayo- could you refer me to the list that you found was full of mistakes. I ask because I found a few different lists that varied slightly and want to make sure I start with the best list. It's not really an option for me to look up the definition and pinyin for each character and type it all in as, being just one person, it would take me months to get through all 5,000 characters. Quote
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