jaysk Posted August 7, 2009 at 11:25 AM Report Posted August 7, 2009 at 11:25 AM Hi this is my first post, have read a few so pleased to be a member here. I have 3 pictures that I bought in Shanghai which I know very roughly translates as an old poem can someone give me a better translation http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/jaysk/IMG_0249.jpg http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/jaysk/IMG_0248.jpg http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/jaysk/IMG_0247.jpg Thanks in advance Jay Quote
jbradfor Posted August 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM Report Posted August 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM 如意如意、人有人意、我有我意、合得人意、恐非我意、合得我意、恐非人意、人意我意、合得天意、自然如意、百事如意 Quote
leeyah Posted August 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM Report Posted August 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM It seems to be a Buddhist chant or gatka (如意偈) & it reads from left to right, last picture being the first. 人有人意,我有我意; 合得人意,恐非我意; 合得我意,恐非人意; 人意我意,恐非天意; 合得天意,自然如意; 如意如意,百事如意。 I'm no expert on Buddhism, but roughly the meaning seems to revolve around the harmony (合) (or lack of it 恐非) of one's personal desire (我意) vs other people desires (人意) & heaven's will (天意)>>人意·我意·天意, something in the spirit of only the attainment of three universal buddhist truths is what is called universal harmony/happiness, nirvana (?) or whatever. The title which says 万事如意 is a common well-wishing greeting, equal to Western 'best wishes' Quote
jaysk Posted August 7, 2009 at 12:49 PM Author Report Posted August 7, 2009 at 12:49 PM Thank you so much for this guys, I am learning spoken Mandarin but the written language will be out of my reach. So thanks very much for the english translation. Quote
jbradfor Posted August 7, 2009 at 01:57 PM Report Posted August 7, 2009 at 01:57 PM It could be a Buddhist chant as leeyah suggests, or it could just be a modern poem. [The meaning and language does not seem to me to be from an old poem.] Here's my rough translation, for what it's worth. [i have a hard time translating '如意', in the last two lines, so I won't bother. It means something like "may everything be as you want it", "may you get your heart's desire".] 人有人意,我有我意; People have their desires, I have my desires, 合得人意,恐非我意; Obtaining other people's desires (??), I'm afraid to lose my desires 合得我意,恐非人意; Obtaining my desires , I'm afraid to not fulfill others' desires 人意我意,恐非天意; Public desires, my desires, I'm afraid to lose heaven's [1] desires 合得天意,自然如意; Obtaining heaven's desires, one naturally 如意 如意如意,百事如意。 [1] For a more western religious interpretation, you can replace "heaven" with "god". Quote
jaysk Posted August 7, 2009 at 03:08 PM Author Report Posted August 7, 2009 at 03:08 PM thank you jbradfor, a really excellent translation Quote
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