Tsinghua and Beida help

[Canon]

Hello All,

I am currently trying to apply independently to either Tsinghua or Beida for its mandarin training programs starting Feb 2010. I've currently done 3 months of prior mandarin in China and speak a dialect of chinese.

I realise my questions have have already been dealt with in this forum but any help would be appreciated.

Im trying to apply to Tsinghua independently and ive been told by their office I cant. From my knowledge I have to apply though independent companies such as MCP and beijing orange, but id really rather not. However if I do, will the teachers still be from Tsinghua or are they just using the campus and nothing else? My plan is to do 1 semester on a normal class and try to apply for the IUP in the 2nd.

Also it looks like oicr for peking u does accept individual students but they dont have single rooms in their dorms. What are the alternatives for lodging.

And also which program has been better received from students in the past?

Any info would do, thanks so much everyone.

[fanglu]

Im trying to apply to Tsinghua independently and ive been told by their office I cant.

5. Application Procedure

Step 1: Complete On-line Application on the website of Foreign Student Affairs Office, Tsinghua University (http://intlstudent.cic.tsinghua.edu.cn). Print and sign the hard copy of the Application Form produced by the system after all the information submitted is verified.

Step 2: Submit the application materials listed below to Foreign Student Affairs Office, Tsinghua University, by post mail or in person.

From http://intlstudent.cic.tsinghua.edu.cn/EN/index.html under 'admissions'

[Canon]

Thanks Fanglu

but i think that application is for courses at tsinghua not for the mandarin learning course? I called up their office and they told me I couldn't. Is this how you applied last time and you entered the mandarin course for foreign students?

THanks!

[gato]

Isn't the application procedure here?

http://intlstudent.cic.tsinghua.edu.cn/EN/admission/admission-chinese-2009.html

[fanglu]

I have never studied there but it seems clear from their website that you can apply yourself. I have never head of a Chinese university requiring you to use an agent.

[gato]

Contact info for their Chinese language program:

http://intlstudent.cic.tsinghua.edu.cn/EN/introduction/contact.html

Chinese Language Programs

Tel: +86-10-62784621, 62771142

Email: chinese@tsinghua.edu.cn

[Canon]

thakns guys, yes i called the number that was posted and it doesnt open yet. Opens in october. I must have misheard the lady before, maybe she meant it wasn't open yet.

Just for reference does anyone have any insights on which is better, Tsinghua or Beida? for mandarin instruction?

[caffeineaddict]

You can definitely apply for the course independently. That's the route I took and I will be starting the program at Tsinghua this September.

Re: Tsinghua vs. Beida...to be honest I really don't know. After doing some digging on these forums and contacting two students (one at either uni) they still seemed pretty similar. So I chose the one that replied to me first.

[imron]

Also realise that in China, and especially when dealing with bureaucracy, and especially when talking to someone whose job doesn't deal with your problem (you mentioned when calling the number it wasn't open yet) sometimes people will answer with "no" rather than "I don't know", or "I'm only going to say it's possible to do X, because I can't be bothered answering all your questions about Y".

I can't offer insights about Mandarin instruction but I expect it will be much of a muchness. I can say however that I like Tsinghua's campus better than Beida's. Tsinghua is also located closer to the center of Wudaokou and the train line etc.

[Canon]

cool thanks guys, ill apply for the feb start as soon as it opens in october. Thanks for the help!

Caffeineaddict, hope you enjoy your time there in september.

[caffeineaddict]

no problem, feel free to pm me if you want to know more info about tsinghua after Sept.