xuechengfeng Posted August 11, 2004 at 03:35 AM Report Posted August 11, 2004 at 03:35 AM is it possible for someone to show me the national anthem Quote
ala Posted August 11, 2004 at 04:35 AM Report Posted August 11, 2004 at 04:35 AM PRC anthem: March of the Volunteers Yiyongjun Jinxingqu Context: Sino-Japanese War Song by Nie Er (1932, studied in Japan) Lyrics by Tian Han "China's National Anthem is a short march originating from a film produced in Shanghai in the 1930s." Arise, Ye who refuse to be slaves! With our very flesh and blood, Let us build our new Great Wall! The peoples of China are in the most critical time, From each one the urgent call for action comes forth. Arise! Arise! Arise! Millions of souls with one heart, Braving the enemy's gunfire, March on! Braving the enemy's gunfire, March on! March on! March on! On! Qilai! Buyuanzuo nulide renmen! Bawomende xierou, zhucheng women xinde changcheng! Zhonghua minzu daole zuiweixiande shihou, meigeren beipozhe fachu zuihoude housheng. Qilai! Qilai! Qilai! Women wanzhongyixing, maozhe dirende paohuo qianjin! Maozhe dirende paohuo qianjin! Qianjin! Qianjin! Jin! Very different from the Republic of China anthem. Quote
woodcutter Posted August 12, 2004 at 02:22 AM Report Posted August 12, 2004 at 02:22 AM I don't rate it that much as an anthem, though it is nice to shout out the "Qilai!" bit. Do you think it is a good tune? Quote
Quest Posted August 12, 2004 at 10:06 AM Report Posted August 12, 2004 at 10:06 AM Do you think it is a good tune? highly subjective. Most people were "trained"(or naturally inclined) to love their national anthem. Quote
Ian_Lee Posted August 12, 2004 at 08:00 PM Report Posted August 12, 2004 at 08:00 PM When I was a kid, we used to make fun with this song by changing the words into: 冬菜牛肉, 剁烂...剁烂... (sung in Cantonese) Quote
xuechengfeng Posted August 12, 2004 at 09:07 PM Author Report Posted August 12, 2004 at 09:07 PM interesting, thanks all.. does anybody know where i can get the background music so i can attempt to sing it out to hear what it sounds like Quote
woodcutter Posted August 13, 2004 at 01:25 AM Report Posted August 13, 2004 at 01:25 AM Watch the olympics! You are going to hear it plenty of times. It sounds a bit like a call on a military bugle, and not very Chinese at all. Quote
ala Posted August 13, 2004 at 03:54 AM Report Posted August 13, 2004 at 03:54 AM Here's a very Chinese ex-anthem (early 20th century): 卿雲爛兮 糺縵縵兮 日月光華 旦復旦兮 bright is the auspicious cloud, broad is its magnificence; as brilliant as the sun and moon, reviving dawn after dawn. Kind of like the Japanese anthem too ("till mose grow on rocks"). Quote
ala Posted August 13, 2004 at 04:04 AM Report Posted August 13, 2004 at 04:04 AM Here's an orchestral recording of the PRC anthem: http://www.cs.binghamton.edu/~kliu/music/guoge.au Here's an orchestral recording of the ROC anthem: http://www.gio.gov.tw/info/98html/sanminzhuyi3.wav (700kb) http://www.gio.gov.tw/taiwan-website/5-gp/yearbook/anthem.mp3 (1.5mb) Personally I find the ROC anthem more majestic (more suitable for a nation like China). The PRC one is somewhat paranoid and xenophobic, weird without a context (anti-Japanese). The PRC anthem didn't become legislated until the 80's I believe, I remember the lyrics were changed and then changed back to what it is now. Quote
pazu Posted August 13, 2004 at 06:32 AM Report Posted August 13, 2004 at 06:32 AM I went to a Taiwanese primary school in HOng Kong when I was young, and I still remembered we were asked to sing the song every morning, 升國旗, 唱~~國~~歌!!! Then the head prefect raise the flag and we sang together... back in those times, Hong Kong was quite a tolerable city. Quote
bhchao Posted August 13, 2004 at 07:27 AM Report Posted August 13, 2004 at 07:27 AM Ah, listening to that ROC anthem brings back those memories. I remember when I was a kid in Taiwan, everyone in a cinema theater had to stand up when the anthem was being played before the start of a movie. Quote
geek_frappa Posted August 13, 2004 at 03:59 PM Report Posted August 13, 2004 at 03:59 PM http://mp3.baidu.com/m?rn=&tn=baidump3&ct=134217728&word=%B9%FA%B8%E8&submit=%B0%D9%B6%C8%CB%D1%CB%F7&lm=0 Quote
Guest Yau Posted August 14, 2004 at 07:53 AM Report Posted August 14, 2004 at 07:53 AM Ah, listening to that ROC anthem brings back those memories. I remember when I was a kid in Taiwan, everyone in a cinema theater had to stand up when the anthem was being played before the start of a movie. 當時最希望每朝下大雨, 不用唱甚麼「三民主義....吾黨所忠」, 那首歌的歌詞又怪又不好聽. 升旗歌反而好聽一點. Quote
wushijiao Posted August 16, 2004 at 12:19 AM Report Posted August 16, 2004 at 12:19 AM I like TangChao's version of the anthem, Guoji Ge. Quote
bhchao Posted August 16, 2004 at 05:32 AM Report Posted August 16, 2004 at 05:32 AM The ROC anthem sounds so smooth, elegant, and grand in comparison to the abrupt bugle beat of the PRC anthem. The ROC anthem was named the world's best anthem at the 1936 Summer Olympics. Both the PRC and ROC claim that their legitimacy derives from Sun Yatsen's legacy. If the PRC really thinks that, then China should adopt the ROC anthem one day (a one in a million possibility), since the words of that anthem were spoken by Dr Sun to graduates of the Whampoa Military Academy (Zhou Enlai's alumni) The lyrics of the PRC anthem may sound patriotic, but honestly the anthem overall sounds kind of childish. Quote
Ian_Lee Posted August 16, 2004 at 11:50 PM Report Posted August 16, 2004 at 11:50 PM IMHO the lyrics of the ROC national anthem seems inappropriate since it contains phrases like 三民主義....吾黨所忠. 三民主義 is fine as the motto of certain political party. But if it is enforced on the populace without a vote (just like the other ......主義), then it is against democracy. And for 吾黨所忠, unless all Chinese (or for the time being all people in Taiwan) become cadres of a certain political party, otherwise it is outright unfit. The song is perfect as a party song but not as a national anthem. Quote
Jive Turkey Posted August 17, 2004 at 02:44 AM Report Posted August 17, 2004 at 02:44 AM I'm partial to the ROC anthem. It sounds quite beautiful to me, but it seems a bit long. It's also got some words in it that are a bit, well, non-PC. Nevertheless, I think the PRC anthem lends itself well to flag raising ceremonies and parades. There's a lot of visual effect when in a flag raising ceremony, the soldier quickly snaps the flag into the air at just the right time. An old mainlander I knew in Taiwan who had come over in '49 was really nostalgic about everything KMT, including the ROC anthem. In his opinion, part of any agreement between Taipei and Beijing would have to include the PLA band playing the ROC anthem after the PRC anthem at whatever agreement signing ceremony they had. Imagine the looks on mainlanders' faces if they heard the ROC anthem played on the mainland by the PLA. Quote
ala Posted August 17, 2004 at 03:39 AM Report Posted August 17, 2004 at 03:39 AM The ROC anthem is very nostalgic of a former and more innocent China in ones dreams. More optimistic for sure. Especially this version: http://www.gio.gov.tw/info/98html/sanminzhuyi3.wav (700kb) Quote
Jive Turkey Posted August 17, 2004 at 04:34 AM Report Posted August 17, 2004 at 04:34 AM I was just watching the news and saw the Chinese gold medal winners at the Olympics. Like every other country's medal winners, they played the national anthem. Now here's a question: If an athlete from "Chinese Taipei" wins a medal, do they play the ROC anthem? Quote
bhchao Posted August 17, 2004 at 04:38 AM Report Posted August 17, 2004 at 04:38 AM If an athlete from "Chinese Taipei" wins a gold medal, they play the "Flag Song" instead of the ROC anthem. Quote
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