chinopinyin Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:12 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:12 PM Many Chinese and Japanese people say it is a good idea to write characters in the air with your fingers to help you remember them. This certainly saves on paper and ink. Do you employ this strategy? Quote
Glenn Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:17 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:17 PM I use the palm of my hand and walls a lot (particulary the shower wall). When I'm doing actual drilling I use a Doodle Pro. Quote
Hofmann Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:25 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:25 PM No, but I'm sure it works. See attachment, page 5 "KINETIC INFORMATION IN KAJI [sic] WORDS." Kanji Knowledge as Read-only vs. Write-Only - Kess, Miyamoto.pdf 1 Quote
putonghua73 Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:25 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:25 PM I do, or rather did, whist on the tube [metro] in the morning, when I was in London. However, rote memorisation has taken a back seat because I find trying to memorise a whole bucketful of new words per day, boring, frustrating and distracting from understanding grammar structures and consolidating what I have already learnt. That said, when I do go over new words, verbs, sentence structures, I use a whiteboard as I've found it is much more useful than paper to focus writing hanzi correctly - and more importantly, it sticks in my mind. Writing in the air helps when you're out and about, but I've found for retention, it's a mixture of cerebral memorisation and muscle memorisation i.e. by writing on a whiteboard or paper, your hand 'remembers' the strokes for particular characters; rather like when you learn touch-typing, after a while your fingers 'remember' the correct position on the keyboard without conscious thought. Cheers! 1 Quote
roddy Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:56 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 03:56 PM Fine in terms of remembering structure / stroke order, but (and this is after spending quite some time with a tablet and stylus over the last six months) if you want to be able to write non-ugly characters with pen and paper, you need to put the time in with pen and paper. If you'll forgive the analogy, you can't learn to play the guitar by waving a harmonica about. Quote
Meng Lelan Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:01 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:01 PM A harmonica is not the same as a guitar so that's not an analogy, you blow the harmonica, you strum the guitar. To answer the OP's question, yes, I do it all the time. Quote
roddy Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:08 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:08 PM Ah, but a pen is not the same as a finger. Ha! 1 Quote
SiMaKe Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:16 PM Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:16 PM ...you can't learn to play the guitar by waving a harmonica about. Or you can't learn to play the guitar by practicing on an "air guitar". Quote
chinopinyin Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:24 PM Author Report Posted June 22, 2010 at 04:24 PM No, but I'm sure it works. See attachment, page 5 "KINETIC INFORMATION IN KAJI [sic] WORDS." Very nice paper. It is only quoted two times in Google Scholar, though http://scholar.google.es/scholar?hl=es&q=Kanji+Knowledge+as+Read-only+vs.+Write-Only&btnG=Buscar&lr=&as_ylo=&as_vis=0 I wonder if there are additional studies on this subject Interestingly, the older you are the more likely you are to finger-write Writing on surfaces is also more common than writing on the air Quote
Mandyding Posted June 23, 2010 at 09:31 AM Report Posted June 23, 2010 at 09:31 AM writing on the air is a good idea when you do not have pen on hand, its not a strategy, when you see a new character, you can write on the desk or on your thigh, its better then writing in the air Quote
dumdumdum Posted June 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM Report Posted June 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM might as well put it down on paper and you can refer back to it later. Quote
Meng Lelan Posted June 24, 2010 at 02:37 PM Report Posted June 24, 2010 at 02:37 PM I used to see children and older folks practice writing characters by tracing in the sand at the beach or tracing with water on a brick or cement surface. So sometimes the finger can act as a pen. Quote
Scoobyqueen Posted September 25, 2011 at 08:46 AM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 08:46 AM A Japanese teacher told her class that writing characters in the air using the whole arm movement is another aid to remember characters. This is partly because muscles are involved but also the large drawing area allows you to remember where the different strokes are located . She mentioned that it is similar to remembering your pin code at a cash point - this is why the brain gets confused when the order of the pin code numbers are switched around. Quote
skylee Posted September 25, 2011 at 09:09 AM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 09:09 AM I am not sure if it helps learning writing, but a friend of mine (native Chinese) does this a lot, even during a gathering, and I find it annoying. It is as if he finds us boring (well perhaps we are). Quote
Guoke Posted September 25, 2011 at 09:19 AM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 09:19 AM I used to play a game of guessing Chinese characters with other kids when I was little. We would take turn to write a character on someone’s back with a finger and let them guess what the character was. Quote
Meng Lelan Posted September 25, 2011 at 12:17 PM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 12:17 PM It is as if he finds us boring (well perhaps we are). I don't know what is the relationship with air-writing and boredom? Quote
skylee Posted September 25, 2011 at 12:21 PM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 12:21 PM What do you say would make a person write characters in the air during a social gathering, when everyone else is eating, chatting and having fun? Quote
Meng Lelan Posted September 25, 2011 at 12:38 PM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 12:38 PM He air writes to himself? Quote
xiaocai Posted September 25, 2011 at 02:14 PM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 02:14 PM I am not sure if it helps learning writing, but a friend of mine (native Chinese) does this a lot, even during a gathering, and I find it annoying. It is as if he finds us boring (well perhaps we are). I don't know how he actually does it, but I think I will find it more weird than annoying if any of my friends does so... Quote
Meng Lelan Posted September 25, 2011 at 03:14 PM Report Posted September 25, 2011 at 03:14 PM If he's air-writing his thoughts that's really cool. I bet he's older than 35, because younger than 35 the young whippersnappers are mostly texting and typing not writing on paper and in the air. Quote
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