murrayjames Posted March 22, 2011 at 03:18 PM Report Posted March 22, 2011 at 03:18 PM Using shuangpin, how do you type a character whose pinyin begins with a vowel, like 嗯 or 爱? Specifically, what keystrokes do you press? I've tried the default shuangpin schemes in both Google and Sogou Pinyin IMEs, but I can't get it to work. Thanks..... Quote
edelweis Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:28 PM Report Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:28 PM From http://baike.baidu.com/view/1054281.htm 注2: 单韵母音的打法,各种不同的方案有不同的方法,具体应该参看各方案的说明。但是一个比较流行的办法是,以一个没有被用作表示zh、ch、sh的元音字母作虚声母(也称零声母)加在相应韵母之前,目前使用o作虚声母的方案较普遍。以此为例,在搜狗方案下输入音“ai”就应该键入“ol”(该方案下ai韵母用l表示)。 I've not tried it myself, but it says "o" may stand for a lack of initial consonant in some shuangpin schemes including sougou. Quote
gato Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:31 PM Report Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:31 PM Type "o" as the first letter if the character doesn't have an opening consonant in its pinyin. 嗯 = of 爱 = ol I use the Microsoft Shuangpin scheme because it tends the most widely available. You can use the Microsoft scheme on any machine with Microsoft IME installed, which includes almost every PC in China. Quote
murrayjames Posted March 22, 2011 at 06:12 PM Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 at 06:12 PM Type "o" as the first letter if the character doesn't have an opening consonant in its pinyin. Wow, that'll take some getting used to. May make it easier to memorize the keystrokes for those finals though. Thanks! I saw some of your earlier posts on shuangpin. I gather you use it as your main input method? How is it for you? Quote
gato Posted March 23, 2011 at 12:18 AM Report Posted March 23, 2011 at 12:18 AM It's fantastic. I use Shuangpin on the PC and my phone. I think more people should try it. It only take a few hours to get used to. There are only abiut 20 keys to memorize, in contrast to the probably hundreds of rules for some other entry methods. After those few hours, you will be able to type much faster than in pinyin. Quote
gato Posted March 23, 2011 at 02:27 AM Report Posted March 23, 2011 at 02:27 AM See these helpful resources for learning Shuangpin. http://www.cnblogs.com/typingfaster/archive/2008/04/11/1147679.html Shuangpin Practice Game 双拼练习 (switch to English IME to use) http://hi.baidu.com/belindayuan/blog/item/f676b5ecdd33b835279791a8.html Shuangpin Mnemonic (in order of the keys on keyboard) Qīu, Wua,ia, Ee, Ruan,üan, Tüe, Ying,uai, Ush,u; 求 蛙鸭 鹅, 软 踢越,赢外 鼠; Ichi, Oo,uo, Pun,ün! Aa, Song,iong, Duang,iang; 耻 哦, 屁蚊(晕!) 啊,送蛹, 得旺羊; Fen, Geng, Hang, Jan, Kao, Lai! 奋 耕 行,即安——靠赖! Zei, Xie, Ciao, Vzh,ui,ü, Bou, Nin, Mian。 贼 携 次药 追鱼, 必呕,您 眠。 Quote
murrayjames Posted March 23, 2011 at 05:27 AM Author Report Posted March 23, 2011 at 05:27 AM Yeah, I like it so far. I still make plenty of mistakes, so I made a cheat sheet to help remember all the codes. I downloaded 百度输入法 for Android. It has 双拼 mode and 手写, too, so I can work on my handwriting when speed is not an issue. My cheat sheet: =============== ai=L an=J ang=H ao=K ch=I ei=Z en=F eng=G er=R ia=W ian=M iang=D iao=C ie=X in=N ing=; iong=S iu=Q ong=S ou=B sh=U ua=W uai=Y uan=R uang=D ue=T ü=Y ui=V un=P uo=O zh=V Quote
gato Posted March 23, 2011 at 06:27 AM Report Posted March 23, 2011 at 06:27 AM Try practicing with the Flash program I linked to above. http://www.cnblogs.com/typingfaster/archive/2008/04/11/1147679.html Shuangpin Practice Game 双拼练习 (switch to English IME to use) Quote
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