New Members D.shiry Posted July 11, 2011 at 03:33 AM New Members Report Posted July 11, 2011 at 03:33 AM There are so many words with a small difference.. what is the difference between 让 (ràng),令 (lìng),使 (shǐ) and 叫 (jiào). which of these words to use in formal and informal contexts? Quote
edelweis Posted July 13, 2011 at 06:35 AM Report Posted July 13, 2011 at 06:35 AM Have a look at these for a start: http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/23280-difference-between-%E4%BD%BF%E4%BA%BA%E6%83%8A%E8%AE%B6-%EF%BC%8F-%E4%BB%A4%E4%BA%BA%E6%83%8A%E8%AE%B6-%EF%BC%8F-%E8%AE%A9%E4%BA%BA%E6%83%8A%E8%AE%B6/ http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/13885-%E8%AE%A9-and-%E4%BD%BF/ http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/7829-%E8%AE%93%E6%88%91%E7%9F%A5%E9%81%93-let-me-know/ Quote
Semper Posted July 13, 2011 at 06:57 AM Report Posted July 13, 2011 at 06:57 AM generally speaking, 叫 is uaually used in oral chinese, 让,令,使 are mostly like each other, you can replace one by another in 95% sentences. By the way, how to say “在95%的情况中” in english. for example: 你这样做让人感到不舒服。 你这样做令人感到不舒服。 你这样做使人感到不舒服。 你这样做叫人感到不舒服。 These sentences are all ok and used a lot in our daily life. But in writing chinese, we usually do not use 叫. Quote
roddy Posted July 13, 2011 at 07:59 AM Report Posted July 13, 2011 at 07:59 AM Can you give us some examples of the 5% where they aren't interchangeable? Quote
Glenn Posted July 13, 2011 at 02:26 PM Report Posted July 13, 2011 at 02:26 PM 在95%的情况中 = "95% of the time" is the first thing that comes to mind. Quote
Semper Posted July 13, 2011 at 04:29 PM Report Posted July 13, 2011 at 04:29 PM Can you give us some examples of the 5% where they aren't interchangeable? haha, this is a little difficult, though chinese is my native language, I can not give some examples in a few minutes, all I thought can be replaced by other characters. If I think out I will reply you in time. Quote
Chinadoog Posted July 13, 2011 at 10:52 PM Report Posted July 13, 2011 at 10:52 PM is there any difference between the words 让 and 被 when used in a sentence like this one? 大树让风吹倒了 i thought of an example where 使 and 叫 might be different. 我不能使她高超、我不能叫她高超? can you use 叫 in this sentence? Quote
edelweis Posted July 14, 2011 at 06:30 AM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 06:30 AM @chinadoog: AFAIK 让 and 被 are not interchangeable in this sentence... 大树让风吹倒了 looks wrong to me because I understand "the tree made the wind fall down". Are you perhaps confusing 被 with 把? I think the following sentences are correct but I could be wrong: 风让大树吹倒了 风把大树吹倒了 大树被风吹倒了 Quote
skylee Posted July 14, 2011 at 08:01 AM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 08:01 AM 我不能使她高超、我不能叫她高超? can you use 叫 in this sentence? But what is 高超 supposed to mean here? Quote
Semper Posted July 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM But what is 高超 supposed to mean here? 高潮,哈哈 Quote
xiaocai Posted July 14, 2011 at 12:23 PM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 12:23 PM I normally write as 教 instead of 叫. Quote
skylee Posted July 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM I normally write as 教 instead of 叫. Yes 教 looks better. And I like it better. Quote
Chinadoog Posted July 14, 2011 at 04:46 PM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 04:46 PM sorry, should've been 高潮 (so is 我不能叫她高潮 also correct?) edelweis, i'm pretty sure that 让 and 被 are interchangeable in that sentence. i took that example straight from nciku.com. my chinese gf tends to say 让 a lot instead of 被, and 使 instead of 让. lol Quote
jbradfor Posted July 14, 2011 at 07:03 PM Report Posted July 14, 2011 at 07:03 PM Ummm, I'm not sure I want to ask, but what are you trying to say with "我不能使她高潮"? The only meaning for that I know for 高潮 that makes sense here is "climax/orgasm". Somehow I don't think that's what you mean to say. Or, if it does, you'd be more impressive to rephrase the first verb in the positive, not negative ;). 1 Quote
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