Travelling polygamists

[roddy]

The easiest solution I can see here is to just stop being a Mormon. Have you considered that?

[Meng Lelan]

The easiest solution I can see here is to just stop being a Mormon. Have you considered that?

Or convert to Islam?

I think Malaysia allows bigamy considering its large Muslim population and it does have some Chinese living there too, I was going to try googling that but I am very busy today.

Also, to Meng Lelan I am not Warren Jeffs.

Good, that saves me a phone call to the Texas Rangers. These guys can make cream cheese out of anyone. Now go find a lawyer for yourself. You are going to need one.

[imron]

These guys can make cream cheese out of anyone

Yeah that Chuck Norris is a lean, mean fighting machine.

[Voltman]

I really want a bigamous marriage.

Okay, thanks everybody for the replies!

I'll probably try contacting a Chinese lawyer of some sorts to check up on legalities with what I'm asking here. Hopefully, I won't get the death penalty or anything serious like that.

I worry sometimes. There is often such a big stigma that society has when it comes to polygamy, as if it's something wrong/sinful. I personally see nothing wrong with consensing adults doing what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone or committing any serious sins.

[Meng Lelan]

Chuck Norris is great! He was featured in my favorite martial arts magazine a couple times.

Ok I did google up some things. In Malaysia polygamy is allowed only for those who are Muslims, the man is allowed up to four wives. For non Muslims it is illegal.

[roddy]

I'll probably try contacting a Chinese lawyer of some sorts to check up on legalities with what I'm asking here

You should probably wait, in case the law changes between now and you becoming old enough to marry.

[jbradfor]

There is often such a big stigma that society has when it comes to polygamy, as if it's something wrong/sinful. I personally see nothing wrong with consensing adults doing what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone or committing any serious sins.

I agree with you.

The issue with polygamy in people's mind is that it has a long history of being coercive, and did not involved consenting adults. For example, in many many cases the second or third wife was very young (well below what we would consider an adult now, and certainly below the age of consent). And there was typically a major power/legal differential between men and women in which the women already in the marriage had no (legal) say over bringing in a new wife. So it was very very far from "consensing [sic] adults "

Even in your posts you exhibited this coercive / power differential in your attitude. I can't speak for others here, but personally I found your original request morally reprehensible. Nowhere in any of your posts did you say anything about what your wives want or how to find wives that would agree to this situation. It was all "I want" "I want" "I want". Nowhere in your posts did you even imply that you would have your wives know about each other and the situation and have their consent.

It is people like you, with the attitude you expressed, that causes society to stigmatize polygamy.

[abcdefg]

From the New York Times, April 5, 2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/05jeffs.html

But state troopers, Texas Rangers and other investigators with search and arrest warrants late Friday were still inside the 1,700-acre compound, the Yearning for Zion Ranch of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a breakaway Mormon sect. The compound is in Eldorado, roughly 160 miles northwest of San Antonio...The ranch was built in 2003 by followers of Mr. Jeffs, who was sentenced last November in Utah to 10 years to life in prison for forcing a 14-year-old girl to marry her 19-year-old cousin and to submit to sexual relations against her will. Mr. Jeffs is in jail in Arizona awaiting trial on separate rape charges involving the arranged marriages of two teenage girls to older relatives.

I'm having a hard time taking you seriously. All else aside, can you really afford two wives?

[Phil]

Humm. My understanding is that "polyandry" is a woman having multiple husbands (with polygyny being the opposite, and polygamy being the general term), with bigamy just meaning getting a second spouse. Let me check.... "Bigamy: the act of entering into a marriage with one person while still legally married to another" [source]

D@mn, yes, even the OED agrees with you. I had it in my head that the "gam" of "polygamy" was etymologically related to the "gam" of "gamete", from the Greek γαμέτης ("husband"), completely overlooking the fact that in Greek γαμετή (no terminal "ς") means "wife". Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I really should stick to posting about things about which I know something -- oh, wait, that won't work : there aren't any :-(

** Phil.

[renzhe]

So if I were to go to China and marry a Chinese girl and then go overseas to a country where polygamy is not illegal, then would I be able to pursue a bigamous lifestyle/marriage?

The second marriage would not be acknowledged by China, or most other governments, and the second wife would be treated as an extra-marital lover.

In other words, such an arrangement would only be legal in the countries which actually allow polygamy. Most of these countries will have other laws which might interfere with your desired lifestyle.

[Meng Lelan]

Whatever you do, don't ever mess around with anyone under age 18.

[Silent]

I personally see nothing wrong with consensing adults doing what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone or committing any serious sins.

The problem is you're hurting people with a bigamous marriage. The autistic bureaucrats get stressed from the idea that it does not fit in one of their boxes. Also many religious freaks have problems with marriages that doesn't fit their narrow minds. The best solution is not to get married and just to screw them over. Bureaucrats and religious freaks don't need to know. That way it is also much easier to trade them in when they fail to fulfill their purpose.

[murrayjames]

FWIW, until post #9, the OP never stated whether the OP was male or female. You all just assumed the OP is male, looking for multiple wives. OK, it turns out you were all correct, but still....

It was a fair assumption. In his first post the OP identified himself as a Mormon. Mormonism is known for exactly that--its male leaders and adherents having multiple wives. In fact, plural marriage was not even permitted for women in early Mormonism, though cases of women being married off to more than one man did occur.

[Lu]

I worry sometimes. There is often such a big stigma that society has when it comes to polygamy, as if it's something wrong/sinful. I personally see nothing wrong with consensing adults doing what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone or committing any serious sins.

Now let me ask you: would you mind to be someone's second husband, or to have your wife take a younger husband when you start to go bald or fat or less... virile? Would you be happy with such an arrangement, and if not, why would you expect a woman to be?

Someone once wisely wrote that monogamous is the norm in many cultures not because people like to be monogamous, but because people like their partners to be monogamous. If you agree with your partner having a relationship with someone else, fine, more power to you and the partner. But you can't be surprised that most people don't like their partner taking another lover or spouse.