Popular Post imron Posted August 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM Popular Post Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM I've just finished reading 路遥's 《平凡的世界》, a three-book story spanning the lives and loves of a handful of characters over the ten-year period between 1975 and 1985, and I have to say that this is definitely one of my favourite Chinese novels out of all the ones I've read so far. In fact, I'll go as far to say that I think anyone seriously interested in learning about China and modern-day mainland Chinese culture should read this book, if for no other reason than it will give you greater insight into the lives of ordinary Chinese people ranging from common farmers all the way up to provincial leaders, at a time when China was undergoing dramatic change that eventually shaped the country as it exists today. Not only do you get to see the thought processes and beliefs that shape and form the actions and lives of the protaganists, but through them we can see also what the larger social and political changes meant for people at all levels of society, and the problems, heartaches and joy these people face going about their daily lives. And it really does span a huge cross-section of life - birth, death, love, marriage, family, infidelity, people with disabilities, migrant workers, the effect of education and how it can make a dramatic difference for people in rural China, and so on and so on. More than that though, the author has created characters that you can really take an interest in and care for, sharing in their sorrow and being happy for their joy and success. The book isn't a page turner as such, and there's not really one overarching plot, but it meanders along at a steady pace following the lives of the major (and several minor) characters, and reminds me in many ways of the teledrama 《空镜子》in the folksy, homey, down-to-earth kind of story that it tells. The language used is also not too difficult, and is much easier than what you'll find in a 金庸 or 巴金 novel, and so it might be a good choice for someone who is already comfortable reading smaller-length newspaper articles or magazines and is maybe looking to find a first novel to read (although it's pretty hefty, weighing in at over 1 million characters across all three volumes). Two thumbs up from me. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Lelan Posted August 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM What is the publication date or ISBN number? With that information I can probably get it through interlibrary loan here which is free to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted August 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM ISBN: 978-7-5302-0955-4 Note, this ISBN covers all three volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Lelan Posted August 28, 2011 at 12:53 PM Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 12:53 PM Thanks, now I want to ask another question, now that you've read this book, how much do you feel that the story is reflective of life in China in that time period? I have to admit I got interested when you said the characters included those with disabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkhsu Posted August 28, 2011 at 02:23 PM Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 02:23 PM Found this link: http://www.cnnovels.com/xdwx/luyao/pfds/ Are these just excerpts, summaries or the actual book? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertR Posted August 28, 2011 at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 07:38 PM @jkhsu: That seems to be the actual book @imron: Since you mentioned 《空镜子》, I was wondering whether you also read that one. I ask since I recently bought this book and was planning to read it once I've finished 巴金's 《家》 (at first sight it seems easier than 《家》)。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowpower Posted August 28, 2011 at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 08:05 PM you might want to check out these china made TV dramas: 1) 八兄弟 2) 我们那个时代 I&II themes about modernisation, displacement, migratory workers from the rural/farmlands, city living neuroses, factory workers vs office workers, etc...themes that are mentioned in 《平凡的世界》. I haven't read the books but intend to add them to my reading list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted August 28, 2011 at 09:51 PM Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 09:51 PM Are these just excerpts, summaries or the actual book? They are the actual book, but man that website is annoying, opening an ad everytime you click a link. Since you mentioned 《空镜子》, I was wondering whether you also read that one. I've seen the TV drama, but haven't read the book. I might look to see if I can find it. I have to admit I got interested when you said the characters included those with disabilities. It's not a major part of the book, but there are a couple of minor characters with disabilities (including mental and physical disabilities) and later on one person who is wheelchair bound. you might want to check out these china made TV dramas I've seen a number of TV dramas that span this time period, but none of them left quite the same impression on me as this book. I guess books can go into much more detail regarding the thoughts and motivations of a character and can also provide deeper background stories. Plus I get the impression from my reading and tv watchings so far that there are many topics that can be brought up and mentioned in books, that would never make it past the TV censors and so get left out of TV dramas, or only glossed over. Thanks for the recommendations though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted August 28, 2011 at 11:24 PM Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 11:24 PM how much do you feel that the story is reflective of life in China in that time period? Sorry, missed this question first time around. It's difficult to say, not having lived in China in that period, but from Chinese people I have spoken with about the book, it seemed to resonate strongly with them (especially those from more rural areas). The book was also written in the early-mid 80s, so there was not such a large gap between when the story occurred and when the book was written, so I think it reflects quite well the things that it touches upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Lelan Posted August 28, 2011 at 11:43 PM Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 at 11:43 PM Sorry, missed this question first time around. It's difficult to say, not having lived in China in that period, but from Chinese people I have spoken with about the book, it seemed to resonate strongly with them (especially those from more rural areas). Thanks, that's what I was wanting to know. This title is indeed listed in Interlibrary Loan and I just submitted a request ticket for it online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted August 29, 2011 at 12:20 AM Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 12:20 AM Great! I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts once you've finished reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Lelan Posted August 29, 2011 at 12:37 AM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 12:37 AM Hopefully I'll check back in here soon with my insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbuchtel Posted August 29, 2011 at 07:06 AM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 07:06 AM Thanks for the recommendation! On the cover it says the book won the “第三局茅盾文学奖” (not 矛盾...) - anybody know what kind of award this is? Is it a funny way of transliterating 'modern', or is something else going on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted August 29, 2011 at 07:09 AM Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 07:09 AM It's a literary prize named after the Chinese author 茅盾. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbuchtel Posted August 29, 2011 at 07:31 AM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 07:31 AM ok, ok . . . looks like it would have been better for me to just look it up! I was wondering who the heck would name their child 茅盾, but from reading the baike page it seems he was born 沈德鸿. He chose 矛盾 as a pseudonym, which was changed by a magazine editor to 茅盾 - a change that he was happy enough with to continue using for the rest of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertR Posted August 29, 2011 at 08:51 AM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 08:51 AM @imron: I bought 《空镜子》 when I was in Beijing last month, but it is really difficult to find. You can order it online on Dangdang, but they only deliver it to certain places (and 海淀 wasn't one of these :-(, it's really weird), Joyo (amazon.cn) doesn't have it anymore. I went to the huge bookshops in Wangfujing, Xidan and Zhongguancun and none of these had the book, but at Zhongguancun there were willing to order it, and after a week they phoned me to tell me that the book (against all expectations) had arrived... Relating to that website, I didn't have any ads. Apparently the ad-blocker I'm using is still working nicely :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:05 PM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:05 PM The ads are terrible for me too! BertR, what ad-blocker are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:32 PM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:32 PM Perhaps you guys could try these versions (no ads) -> http://www.docin.com/p-25451161.html http://www.docin.com/p-22255952.html http://www.docin.com/p-18776069.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertR Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:39 PM Adblock Plus (I'm using the Firefox add-on). I noticed it blocks these 2 javascript files used by the website were blocked with the default filter list on my system. http://www.cnnovels.com/Ad1.js http://www.cnnovels.com/Ad2.js I also noticed that Tianyabook doesn't seem to have any ads. The book can also be found here: http://www.tianyaboo...yao/pingfan.htm (Edit: Added link to tianyabook) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertR Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:48 PM Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 at 03:48 PM (Edit2: apparently there are ads on Tianyabook, but I didn't notice at first :-) ) Hmm, Roddy, why didn't this post merge with the previous one? It usually does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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