rezaf Posted December 8, 2011 at 08:23 AM Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 08:23 AM Can men1 and men4 be used interchangeably for 悶? Quote
xiaocai Posted December 8, 2011 at 09:14 AM Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 09:14 AM Not always, like 闷闷不乐 can only be pronounced as mèn mèn bú lè. Quote
rezaf Posted December 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM Author Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM Thanks, is it possible to say that (adjective ) men1 and men4 can both mean suffocated or closed but only men4 is used for depressed or bored? Quote
roddy Posted December 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM Which dictionary are you using, and have you found something to suggest it's wrong? Quote
rezaf Posted December 8, 2011 at 11:34 AM Author Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 11:34 AM I'm using Pleco on my iPod. Basically it says men1 as adjective means 空氣不流通and men4 means 1.封閉的,不透氣的 2。煩 Quote
roddy Posted December 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM Those are different meanings, so they can't really be interchangeable. You could probably get away with it though, it's easy to imagine that being the kind of thing Chinese people mix up. Quote
rezaf Posted December 8, 2011 at 03:40 PM Author Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 03:40 PM I got back home and checked some other dictionaries. I'm beginning to understand the difference: 為那事生了一肚子悶氣(men4) 門窗關得嚴嚴的,悶氣得很,快開一開吧!(men1) Edit: I think (adjective)men1 means to feel uncomfortable because of poor air circulation in the room and men4 means: 1. to feel uncomfortable or distressed 心里很闷 or 2.sealed 闷罐子 problem solved. Quote
roddy Posted December 8, 2011 at 10:48 PM Report Posted December 8, 2011 at 10:48 PM mēn doesn't have to be in a room - weather can be 闷热. Ah, taking a closer look at the Guifan, it looks like there's an adjective / verb distinction for 闷 as in sealed / to seal. Quote
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