kavanin Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:00 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:00 PM I'm not clear about the meaning of 外边的屋子里 in 外边的屋子里, 中间放着一张桌子。 Is it another way of saying 屋子外边 or does it mean something else? Quote
creamyhorror Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:06 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:06 PM 外边的屋子里 = (外边的屋子)里 = inside (the house outside) 外边的屋子里, 中间放着一张桌子。 In the middle of the house outside sits a table. Quote
kavanin Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:18 PM Author Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:18 PM Thank you. Please forgive my ignorance but I still can't figure out where the table is. Here is a better context: 王国华和他爱人去劳动了, 他父亲和母亲在家。看见外国朋友来了, 他们很高兴, 握着客人们的手说:“欢迎, 欢迎!” 他们请客人到屋里坐。屋子的门和窗户都开着, 屋子里很干净, 也很整齐。 外边的屋子里, 中间放着一张桌子。桌子两边有几把椅子, 桌子上放着电视机。 Quote
creamyhorror Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:42 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 03:42 PM Hmm, I'm not sure how to interpret that, it doesn't make sense to me. Maybe someone else will have a better idea. Quote
yonglin Posted December 17, 2011 at 05:40 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 05:40 PM Perhaps you can think about it as an inner and outer room in their house? Presumably, you receive guests and have dinner in the "outer" room, and sleep in the "inner" room. I mean, it doesn't really make sense to have table, chairs, TV, etc. outside the house. Quote
kavanin Posted December 17, 2011 at 06:39 PM Author Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 06:39 PM Thank you. I'll understand it as in the outer room. Quote
skylee Posted December 17, 2011 at 08:43 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 08:43 PM 屋子is a room. 房子is a house. Quote
creamyhorror Posted December 17, 2011 at 09:02 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 09:02 PM 屋子is a room. 房子is a house. I'm actually used to thinking of 屋子 and 房子 as "house" and 房间 as "room". This confused me when I encountered people saying 屋子 for "room". My mistake. Anyway, in this case, even given that 外边的屋子 refers to an external room, the passage still doesn't quite make sense to me. The visitor enters the 屋子presumably from the outside, and once he's inside, how come there's another 外边的屋子? Quote
skylee Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM Report Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM How about the friends are at the main door, the parents invite them to go inside, ie the outer room. Have you heard of houses being described as 二進? (Sorry for introducing more terms.) In Cantonese 屋 is a house (the bigger unit) , whereas 房 is a room (the smaller unit). This is perhaps a southern usage. Quote
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