newbie grammar: subject of sentence

[fij]

Hi,

In this sentence: 我还没有到过中国 is the object 到过 ? For the purpose of understanding the grammar, is the following a reasonable translation? I have not yet visited China (i.e., not yet had a trip to China). I'm trying to find the equivalent of "trip" in the Chinese sentence.

Thanks

[Silent]

I'm pretty much a beginner too, but my take on it:

There is no equivalent of trip in the Chinese sentence as there is no equivalent of trip in "I have not yet visited China". Personally I'ld rather translate it as "I've not been to China" but it all conveys the meaning.

A word by word translation:

我__还__ 没有____ 到_________过__中 国

I___*1__not have__goto/arrive__*2 __China

*1 means it's still going on and hints on 没有到过中国， i.e. it's still going on that you have not been to china.

*2 indicates a completed action and hints on 到, i.e. the going to/arrive is completed.

So essentially: I still* have not completed* goto/arrive China

Where the * words are structural particles indicating the state of things.

[yialanliu]

I'm not a big fan of the original sentence because no one says that.

我还没去过中国 is the better sentence. I have not been to China.

Trip is completely possible to translate. However, you have to translate it with the correct meanings in terms of what type of trip you want to go on.

游览 - sight seeing type of trip so often used when you go to lots of places within a major place. ie. going to many cities within China

旅游 - vacation trip

旅行 - to travel, can be used for business

逗留 - very short day trips

To translate I have not yet visited China. 我还没有游览过中国 would work.