ErdoS Posted October 10, 2012 at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 01:26 PM This will seem like an odd request so I'd like to give a backstory, if you don't mind. I have recently grown close to my friend's girlfriend. No, I do not have any romantic interest in her at all (I'm not a lesbian, haha), but now that we are close I feel she deserves to know that her boyfriend has been cheating on her... this whole time. And I'd like to tell her while staying out from any possible confrontations. So I was thinking of sending something like this through an anonymous message... A) Your boyfriend [NAME] has been cheating on you with multiple girls... from the start. B) [NAME] went to China this June, and did not tell you because he was busy picking up girls. For [NAME] please leave as is, and show me where I would place his name. Sorry for the bizarre request but it is quite important! And for clarification: Not pinyin Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted October 10, 2012 at 03:31 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 03:31 PM She doesn't speak English? How have you been able to get close to her? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny同志 Posted October 10, 2012 at 04:08 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 04:08 PM Translations have been removed. I am sorry but I think I'd better not become involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted October 10, 2012 at 04:17 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 04:17 PM It sounds more like someone who wants break up the relationship of this guy and his Chinese girlfriend who doesn't speak English. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 10, 2012 at 06:01 PM Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 06:01 PM She does speak english, but it'd be a dead giveaway if the message were in english. And if you understand that her knowing these certain details would break them up, as you suggest, then you obviously realize they should break up. Not sure why people think I'm doing something bad, this is a good deed, duh. Why be with some one who has been cheating on you and lying to you and effectively wasting your time. But really this isn't an ethical debate, but an important translation. As you see I am here and not on google because I need quality, so please if you will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li3wei1 Posted October 10, 2012 at 06:24 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 06:24 PM If this is such a good deed, why don't you just tell her? Why are you afraid of knowing it's from you? And if she doesn't know who it's from, why should she believe it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 10, 2012 at 06:44 PM Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 06:44 PM Because the boyfriend is buff. And she will believe me because I have evidence. What is this, an inquisition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edelweis Posted October 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM I thought the boyfriend was your friend? And you are female? So you're friends with a buff cheating guy who might hurt you, a woman, if you reveal his cheating ways? But how come he let you (a "female friend") know he was a cheater? Possibly it seems all perfectly clear and legitimate to you, but well, random people on the internet are bound to find this odd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted October 10, 2012 at 09:21 PM Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 09:21 PM Why don't you just leave her to find out herself, why get involved? Maybe she already knows but is turning a blind eye, she may know and not care. If you have evidence and you tell her the evidence won't she know it came from you as the only person who may have this evidence.? It does seem odd that you know (another female) but his girlfriend dosen't. Leave it alone, let life take it course. Remember..... No good deed goes unpunished. You are not going do either of them any favours opening this can of worms. Why should you be the bearer of bad news. It really won't do you any favours in anybody's eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 10, 2012 at 09:38 PM Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 at 09:38 PM Yes I am female, yes he is a bad guy who is known to have temper "problems." Yes he told me about the cheating, maybe to try to impress me I don't really know. No she won't know the evidence came from me. Taking this action IS "life taking its course," how is it not? I should be the bearer of bad news because no one else will. And yes, I am doing this girl a huge favor, trust me. I love how society hates on certain things, like for example cheating (with good reason, too), and when you are given the power to right this wrong, you cower. I'm giving you the opportunity to do something good and just, not so I can be bombarded with ethical opposition. You see something intrinsically and morally wrong, you fix it as best you can, at least that's how I was raised. Some famous quote comes to mind... "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" PS: Simplified Mandarin please! )= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted October 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM How is it a dead giveaway if the message were in English? Giveaway of what? What's wrong with writing it in English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 11, 2012 at 02:10 AM Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 02:10 AM I'd answer your question gato, but we're just getting too off topic now. This is a forum for translations... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 11, 2012 at 02:35 AM Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 02:35 AM Can I get a translation please, before we get more off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted October 11, 2012 at 02:52 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 02:52 AM This is a forum for translations... right? It is. However people reading it are doing so on their own time for their own interest, and so you need to be able to convince people to help you. As gato mentioned, anyone can write anything on the Internet and he's raised the concern that the real situation could just as easily be that the boyfriend is not cheating, and you are just looking for a way to break up this guy and his Chinese girlfriend so you would have a chance with him. I'm not saying that's the case, but obviously there is doubt, and as long as that doubt is there, people are going to be reluctant to help (good people acting without fully understanding the situation can be just as bad as good people doing nothing). Gato asking you for more details is him trying to find out more about the situation, and while not specifically related to the translation, are still on topic for the general thread. Your reluctance to answer such questions is probably only going to increase suspicion regarding motive, rather than the other way around, so it's probably in your best interest to answer them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 11, 2012 at 03:41 AM Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 03:41 AM I like your eloquence, Admin. Well then, I'm pretty much her only non-chinese friend. So that's why it'd be a dead giveaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted October 11, 2012 at 04:29 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 04:29 AM But this anonymous message about the boyfriend's cheating must come from someone who knows the buff boyfriend well. I would guess that the boyfriend's social circle probably includes lots of non-Chinese speaking people, anyone of whom could be the source of the message. The girlfriend's almost exclusively Chinese-speaking social circle, on the other hand, is quite likely to know the boyfriend less well, at least not well enough to know about the cheating. If they did know the boyfriend that well, they would already know about the cheating, too, and would have told the girlfriend already, "fellow countrymen" and "we've all got to hang together" and all. So if you want the girlfriend to believe the message, you are better off creating a new gmail account and sending her an email, with enough details to convince her the truth of the message. Sending her two sentences in Chinese is not going to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edelweis Posted October 11, 2012 at 04:52 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 04:52 AM I am not sure I understand how breaking up your friend's relationship, without letting him know you disapprove of his conduct, in a way that lets you still call him your friend and associate socially with him while actually despising him is "the right thing to do". Keeping yourself out of physical harm, while putting the girlfriend in the path of physical harm, without declaring yourself as a friend she can turn to, is that "the right thing to do"? Helping a random internet stranger break a relationship, based only on said stranger's assertions that it is justified and that not helping makes us cowards, is that "the right thing to do" for members of this board? Assuming the situation is as you described, you are indeed in a difficult situation, and I can understand why you would be tempted to break them up while keeping yourself out of trouble, however your methods do seem a triffle hypocritical and manipulative... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymoose Posted October 11, 2012 at 05:15 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 05:15 AM 你的男朋友[NAME]从一开始一直还和另一些女的发生关系。 今年6月[NAME]去了一趟中国，他没告诉你是因为当时他也在泡妞。 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErdoS Posted October 11, 2012 at 05:34 AM Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 05:34 AM No, the boyfriend hangs out with 99% chinese people too. Only the boyfriend's close friends know. I have told him numerous times you should just pick one. And yes I know that may make him think it's me if he gets wind of the message, but I'm willing to risk that, alot less risk than a message to her in english, follow so far? She is a friend and ofcourse knows she can turn to me! And your point about her being in danger has come across my mind. I have asked her if he ever harmed her, and she said something like "I have certain 'reasons' why he can never hurt me." Her english isnt the best but I do trust her words. THANK YOU ANONYMOOSE. Jeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny同志 Posted October 11, 2012 at 05:44 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 at 05:44 AM I've polished Anonymoose translations a little bit. Hope you don't mind, Anonymoose. A) Your boyfriend [NAME] has been cheating on you with multiple girls... from the start. 你男朋友[NAME]从一开始就脚踩几条船。 B) [NAME] went to China this June, and did not tell you because he was busy picking up girls. [NAME]今年六月去过中国，但他没有告诉你，因为他那时正忙着泡妹子。 I suggest you replace the second “NAME” with 他(he) and put the two sentences together to form a tighter message, i.e. 你男朋友[NAME]从一开始就脚踩几条船。他今年六月去过中国，但他没有告诉你，因为他那时正忙着泡妹子。 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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