Good sites with example sentences that include pinyin?

[nicostouch]

I'm looking for more sites like nciku.com which contain a whole lot of example sentences but also include pinyin for them. I don't get why so many other sites/online dictionaries don't include it. Makes them almost useless as a resource for learning.

Anyone know anything that fits that description that might be useful?

Cheers.

[imron]

Jukuu.com is a site that has a whole lot of example sentences, but unfortunately for you, no pinyin.

Have you considered using a popup mouseover dictionary such as Perakun or the MDBG tool? That way you can get pinyin for sentences even when the site doesn't include it themselves.

[大肚男]

IMHO tatoeba.org is the best such site for the learner of any language.

[rkraft]

Have you looked into Anki?

I've downloaded a set with more than 20,000 sentences - all with hanzi, pinyin, and English. The English translation is sometime a little bit strange, and you have to watch out for the mistakes in the pinyin. Certain common characters are consistently translated with a secondary meaning (for example 吃 is always written as jí instead of chī, although the sentences in question are clearly talking about eating). But you'll get the hang of it...

[Lu]

I don't get why so many other sites/online dictionaries don't include it. Makes them almost useless as a resource for learning.

Perhaps because then you have to either seriously limit the sources you pluck your examples from or hire someone to write pinyin for all of them (the Anki example 楼上 is the reason you need a person for this and can't have it done automatically). But that doesn't really help you, sorry. I was going to recommend Iciba (lots of good example sentences) but checked and realised that's one of the places that doesn't include pinyin. I recall some paper dictionaries do have it, perhaps that's worth looking into.

[li3wei1]

www.archchinese.com has example sentences, and you can set your preferences for what you get: pinyin, simplified, traditional, and English.

[nicostouch]

Hey guys, thanks for all your suggestions.

I shall definitely check out tatoeba.org! Thanks for the suggestion

Yeah, I've seen Jukuu.com and that's where I first felt a little disappointed to have such a great resource of sentences but then be unable to really tap it as a resource.

I'm also a long time user of Anki and so am aware of that 20,000 sentence deck. However, it's not really what I'm looking for. Plus the mistakes in it are too bothersome to weed out and potentially problematic.

[Mike Hainzinger]

There are downloadable chapters with many pinyin exercises in the Chinese with Mike series.

[tooironic]

I don't quite get why you need example sentences in full pinyin. Surely you only need pinyin for the words you can't recognise? In which case a popup dictionary like the one at MandarinSpot.com would suffice. To say example sentence sites like jukuu.com are useless as a resource for learning is a pretty big exaggeration. I wouldn't imagine any learner past beginner/intermediate stage needing to read sentences in pinyin, as opposed to characters as native speakers do.

[tooironic]

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