count_zero Posted February 20, 2013 at 03:39 AM Report Posted February 20, 2013 at 03:39 AM Below is a link to an article on why China still uses "outdated" technology such as fax machines and Internet Explorer 6. http://motherboard.v...t-explorer-6--2 This reminded me of visiting the post office in China and the cashier using an abacus to calculate change. I also remember seeing Chinese kids in school learning abacus techniques. Surely this is the most extreme example of using old technology when there are other options available! Here in Beijing I've not seen the old Chinese abacus for a few years however, so perhaps they've finally gone the way of the VCD. On Twitter today someone posted a link to an old photo of a traditional wandering knife sharpeners. You still see these guys today though I daresay their days are numbered. http://www.wdl.org/en/item/2045/zoom/#group=1&page=1&zoom=0.33638218753213855¢erX=0.23330676789928384¢erY=0.8006242513943491 And below is a pictorial round-up of some disappearing Chinese trades. You'll probably recognise a few and the equipment they use. Anyone still see abacuses being used? Or other old-timey paraphernalia? Quote
Meng Lelan Posted February 20, 2013 at 04:02 AM Report Posted February 20, 2013 at 04:02 AM Anyone still see abacuses being used? Yes, here in the US for math instruction for those who are blind, especially the deaf-blind as they can't hear talking calculators. Quote
abcdefg Posted February 20, 2013 at 01:02 PM Report Posted February 20, 2013 at 01:02 PM I see the abacus in use a couple times a week in small shops here in Kunming. Places that deal with foreigners are more likely to use a small calculator so they can show the amount of the purchase to someone who doesn't speak Chinese. Quote
Guest realmayo Posted February 20, 2013 at 01:42 PM Report Posted February 20, 2013 at 01:42 PM Interesting article. I've been reading a book called The Shock of the Old: Technology in Global History Since 1900 which sets out to show that our idea of where we are technologically is often unrealistic: basically, we over-focus on those technologies which are new and exciting but don't really play a big role in our lives, while we forget that much older technologies are often the most important in reality. So: despite supersonic flight, the old-fashioned ship is the most important form of transport for trade. Or: despite Panzers etc, the Germans took over half a million horses to fight the Russians. More horses were used in warfare in WW2 than in any previous wars (if I remember right). Quote
Lugubert Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:16 PM Report Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:16 PM Places that deal with foreigners are more likely to use a small calculator so they can show the amount of the purchase to someone who doesn't speak Chinese. Small calculators, but often rather large displays, for which old fogies like myself are grateful. I find it even more interesting that people so often illustrate numbers using finger language, even to fellow Chinese speakers. Perhaps I've noticed this when there are dialectal differences that I can't identify. Quote
count_zero Posted February 21, 2013 at 05:30 AM Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 at 05:30 AM Seems like yet another China contradiction. They don't like second-hand cars or mobile phones that are more than six months old but are happy to use an abacus! Quote
drencrom Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:08 AM Report Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:08 AM Yeah, I think the people buying new phones (rich) are different from those using abacuses (poor). Not much of a contradiction there. Quote
count_zero Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:30 AM Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:30 AM You think the reason some Chinese still use abacuses is because they can't afford a calculator? Quote
li3wei1 Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:51 AM Report Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:51 AM They may be using an abacus, but it's the latest model abacus . 1 Quote
count_zero Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:57 AM Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:57 AM There is, almost certainly, an app for that! 1 Quote
WestTexas Posted February 21, 2013 at 03:58 PM Report Posted February 21, 2013 at 03:58 PM The whole IE thing annoys the hell out of me. I hate having to use IE to do anything. Then of course when I do it asks me to update because I never use it. After reading the article: What a waste of time. I only read the article to get some insight on why Chinese so persistently use IE 6 and all it said was that they still do. Quote
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