addeGG Posted March 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM Report Posted March 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM Yeah. Xiamen University uses this system. Get 180 points on HSK5, 240 points on HSK4 or pass the university's entrance examination and you are qualified to enroll in the 2 year undergraduate program. Now Xiamen University is moving their 海外教育学院 / oversea's college to the outskirts of Xiamen and I have only heard negative comments about this, so I am looking for other universities that use this system. There has to be some, I guess. I heard before that some university in Dalian do, but do you guys know of any other universities? I feel I have studied chinese for too long now without enrolling in any undergraduate program. I should have done it from the beginning. So I want to make the best out of the situation. I tried contact Shenzhen University where I studied before but they just said "No, the undergraduate program is 4 years", doesn't matter if I studied there and read the exactly same things as the undergraduates did - In the papers I was NOT an undergraduate student. Same with BLCU. So do you guys know of any other universities that use this system? 2 year undegraduate program. Thank you 1 Quote
roddy Posted March 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM Report Posted March 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM I'd write up a short-list of universities you'd actually like to go to, then phone round and ask. It could easily be that your ideal university allows this, but doesn't have it on the website and nobody on here happens to know. Also, if your current uni allows this, go in and ask on what basis - is there some edict from the Ministry or provincial authorities specifying levels, etc? I'm not sure the universities have the autonomy to just start letting people skip years. If you can point out to your favoured university that actually they can let you in, and here's the Ministry of Education policy, they may well happily take your fees. For reference, here's the relevant page from DUFE in Dalian. So that's at least one. Quote
xuefang Posted March 22, 2013 at 01:43 AM Report Posted March 22, 2013 at 01:43 AM Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou allows you to do this. Get new HSK5 and you can graduate in two years, with specialisation to Business Chinese or Teaching Chinese as a Foreign Language. The courses from year one and two you have to take exams in order to get grades for them and graduate. 1 Quote
skylee Posted March 22, 2013 at 01:51 AM Report Posted March 22, 2013 at 01:51 AM Sorry I am curious. What kinds of degrees are you talking about? Degrees on Chinese language? If they are degrees on Chinese language, how come Chinese students have to study for 4 years (in HK there are still some 3 years programmes which are being phased out) but foreigners can graduate in two years? I don't understand. Quote
fanglu Posted March 22, 2013 at 03:05 AM Report Posted March 22, 2013 at 03:05 AM The programs the op is talking about are for foreigners. They are four year bachelor degree programs which teach Chinese starting from the very beginning, but some allow you to start from third year if you meet certain requirements. Quote
New Members osimon Posted March 23, 2013 at 03:24 PM New Members Report Posted March 23, 2013 at 03:24 PM The Zhejiang University of Science and Technology has a program called Chinese Language and Literature (Business Chinese) suited to your needs. This major field is designed for overseas students whose mother tongue is not Chinese and who have high school degree or above. Chinese language, business knowledge and Chinese society & culture as the main courses, helping students systematically acquire basic knowledge about the Chinese Language and business Chinese as the purpose, this major field is aimed at building students’ ability to communicate in Chinese freely, know Chinese economy, society and culture better, and master the skill of business work and commecial cooperation in Chinese. This major field satisfies the request of the society to cultivate compound talents. Students with HSK certificate can join in the 2nd academic year or 3rd academic year:⇒Students with new HSK 4 (180 scores or above) can jump into the 2nd academic year; ⇒Students with new HSK 4 (240 scores or above) or new HSK 5 (180 scores or above) can jump into the 3rd academic year. Quote
addeGG Posted March 24, 2013 at 05:44 AM Author Report Posted March 24, 2013 at 05:44 AM Thanks for replying guys, exactly what I was looking for! Now I know at least three other schools besides Xiamen University so I'm gonna think of this for a while... Of course some stuff to take into consideration; I guess Xiamen University is still the highest ranked university among these, but how much should one care about that? In my opinion it is NOT de facto better education at Xiamen University than it is on other schools, it is all about what teacher you get and how much you study yourself and so on. And we foreigners can always choose what university we want... I hope the chinese know this, it's not like we need good high school grades or anything to get accepted to Peking University. Guangzhou? I don't know if I should worry about being exposed to too much cantonese in daily life? Dalian? Isn't there very coooold? Zhejiang University of Science and Technology, interesting! :-) Hit me with more universities if you know more that are using this system with HSK5(or 4) + 2 years of classes = Bachelor's degree. Thanks again! 1 Quote
Guili Posted March 28, 2013 at 04:47 AM Report Posted March 28, 2013 at 04:47 AM i did graduate from shanghai jiaotong university. i got old hsk 6 level at tgat time and started from grade three. two more years and i graduated. but besides hsk certificate u also need to present two years of certificate that u learned chinese. some course certificate or something which proves u studied chinese. theres another university shanghai tongji has same. i heard jiaotong will start to accept from second grade from now on but im not sure. u better call n ask Quote
pirotato Posted March 12, 2014 at 09:38 AM Report Posted March 12, 2014 at 09:38 AM Hi I was wondering what did you do finally! Are u in Xiamen Uni? another uni? How is it going? I am more or less in the same situation. I was about to make it last year but I found out that wasn't prepared for that level (or I thought so) Anyway I would like to make this year and after checking some possibilities Xiamen was in my top 3. (the others 2 options are Shenzhen and Haikou) The 3 of them (supposedly) would let you study from the 3rd grade passing HSK5 with more than 210 points. I have been living in Beijing for 2 years and this pollution is pushing me out of the city.... Cheers Carlos Quote
padgy Posted May 26, 2014 at 08:19 AM Report Posted May 26, 2014 at 08:19 AM Is it possible to enter in 4th year (final year) with HSK6? ;) Quote
roddy Posted June 17, 2014 at 09:54 AM Report Posted June 17, 2014 at 09:54 AM Not if you want to graduate with a degree - there's a minimum requirement of two-years full-time study to be awarded a degree. You could probably get in to take the classes, but you wouldn't graduate. Quote
LinZhenPu Posted May 14, 2016 at 03:35 AM Report Posted May 14, 2016 at 03:35 AM Hi Guys, I'm digging up an old thread here because I'm interested in this myself. This sounds like a pretty nice way to start a life in China, especially if you don't already have a Bachelor degree or higher and you're too old for the BTCSOL scholarship. In fact it seems like such a good idea that I've started a new thread about it. Does anyone know of other universities that definitely provide this option? I might call around to a few different universities to find out myself and tell all you guys. Quote
onebir Posted May 14, 2016 at 05:10 AM Report Posted May 14, 2016 at 05:10 AM Checking out the listings of Chinese Batchelors courses could help narrow it down a bit: some require HSK3 for entry - I think they can be ruled out. Quote
LinZhenPu Posted August 17, 2016 at 03:20 PM Report Posted August 17, 2016 at 03:20 PM some require HSK3 for entry - I think they can be ruled out. Yeah, most likely. I never got around to asking around (lazy) but I dug up a couple more on the CUCAS website that have this. South China University of Technology Bachelor of Arts in Chinese as a Foreign Language: http://school.cucas.edu.cn/South-China-University-of-Technology-54/program/Bachelor-of-Arts-in-Chinese-as-a-Foreign-Language-5642.html For transfer students into the 3rd year: graduated from high school; above the age of 18; New HSK Band 5 or above, or pass SCUT’s language proficiency entry exam. Zhejiang University of Science and Technology Bachelor of Language and Literature Business Chinese: http://school.cucas.edu.cn/Zhejiang-University-of-Science-and-Technology-104/program/Chinese-Language-and-Literature--Business-Chinese--27375.html ⇒Students with new HSK 4 (240 scores or above) or new HSK 5 (180 scores or above) can jump into the 3rd academic year. The course that roddy was referring to at DUFL (Dalian University of Foreign Languages): http://school.cucas.edu.cn/Dalian-University-of-Foreign-Languages-43/program/BA-in-Chinese-Language--Culture--20257.html You can also major in international trade: http://school.cucas.edu.cn/Dalian-University-of-Foreign-Languages-43/program/BA-in-Chinese-Language--International-Trade--20258.html Students who have HSK Band 5 (score above 195) can join the third year. Quote
LinZhenPu Posted October 14, 2016 at 06:38 AM Report Posted October 14, 2016 at 06:38 AM Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou allows you to do this. Get new HSK5 and you can graduate in two years, with specialisation to Business Chinese or Teaching Chinese as a Foreign Language. The courses from year one and two you have to take exams in order to get grades for them and graduate. It was difficult, but I was able to get on the phone with someone to confirm whether or not this is still true and unfortunately I have some bad news. I just got off the phone with Ms. Gao from the School of Chinese as a Second Language at Sun Yat-Sen University and while she refused to send an email confirming this, she confirmed verbally that this was the case before but is no longer. This year, 2016, was the last chance for students to start from the third year. From now on, students can only start from either the first year or the second year. To start from the second year, you need to provide proof that you have studied Chinese at another college or university for one year, and pass Sun Yat-Sen's examination. So Sun Yat-Sen University is out. Not if you want to graduate with a degree - there's a minimum requirement of two-years full-time study to be awarded a degree. I spoke with ZUST and apparently the Chinese government has increased this requirement to three years of full-time study. Which sucks. More here: http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/52598-new-legislation-changing-minimum-period-of-study-from-2-years-to-3-years/ Quote
Chris Two Times Posted March 1, 2017 at 04:08 PM Report Posted March 1, 2017 at 04:08 PM While this may no longer be an option at Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou, it appears that this could be an option at Guangdong University of Foreign Studies, also in Guangzhou. Contact them to double check: http://iie-en.gdufs.edu.cn/admissions/Undergraduate.htm Quote
LinZhenPu Posted March 2, 2017 at 08:05 AM Report Posted March 2, 2017 at 08:05 AM I found another university that offers a similar option. Harbin Engineering University 哈尔滨工程大学。 If somebody can find it on the website please link it otherwise I'll edit with the link later. You can join directly in 3rd year of the Chinese language degree and so graduate in two years, but you must have at least 2 full semesters worth of Chinese language university degree level study ie 1 year FTE. On the website they say for joining directly into the third year you need at least 2 years, but talking in person to the specific staff members responsible for students' entry into this program the policy is actually at least 1 year. You need to have the results transcript. A thought that crossed my mind: Keeping in mind that (in my experience up to HSK4) the actual sitting of the HSK is much much easier than the actual HSK syllabus, getting your Chinese to the level where you can pass the HSK5 is a whole different kettle of fish than studying Chinese language in a university degree program would be. For myself, I imagine that I could get my Chinese good enough by living in the country and getting some lessons for a few hours a week. But I think I would fall hard and fast going straight into the third year of a degree and probably fail the year especially since I've never completed any university studies to date. So I can understand 工程大's policy behind this. I think it would be wise to do a one-year Confucius institute scholarship or self-funded program or at the very least 6 months before going straight into the third year of a degree. As an aside, for me studying in Harbin is more desirable because of the more standard Mandarin amongst all people there than what is in the south of China which is where Xiamen and Guangzhou are. Quote
roddy Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:04 AM Report Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:04 AM " I think I would fall hard and fast going straight into the third year of a degree " Talking only about the Chinese language for foreigners degrees - I'm not so sure. My experience is limited to one university one time (and please don't make any assumptions about DUFE based on what I write there, this was a decade ago), but the classes were basically taught directly from BLCU textbooks and demands on the students were minimal - want to sit at the back and not talk? Sure, if the Korean lads will make room for you. Worried about that 实习 thing you're meant to do? Go on this school trip to Hangzhou, that counts. You're not being told to read a Chinese novel overnight and come back ready to lead a seminar. 1 Quote
Angelina Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:52 AM Report Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:52 AM Whatever helps pay the high tuition fees of the children of someone in administration. Oh, and the houses they buy near school once their children start kindergarten. Filial piety. All kinds of profit-generating schemes, be careful. Quote
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