adamnhms Posted July 30, 2013 at 04:22 PM Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 04:22 PM Hello, I was studying with my audio book, and the program presented a phrase which translated to 'at what time'. I searched all over google and found that maybe my program was saying 'jí diǎn zhōng' Can anybody confirm whether 'jí diǎn zhōng' means 'at what time'? Thank you for the help! Quote
skylee Posted July 30, 2013 at 04:56 PM Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 04:56 PM Yes. The ji is a third tone, though. Tone sandhi. Quote
renzhe Posted July 30, 2013 at 05:01 PM Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 05:01 PM Keep in mind that this phrase is asking about clock time (e.g. "at 12:30") and not time in a general sense (e.g. "tomorrow", "last year"...) Quote
adamnhms Posted July 30, 2013 at 05:25 PM Author Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 05:25 PM Yes. The ji is a third tone, though. Tone sandhi. Xièxie nǐ! Keep in mind that this phrase is asking about clock time That is the exact context in which my audio book program was using it in. Good to know, thank you Quote
Ruben von Zwack Posted July 30, 2013 at 05:59 PM Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 05:59 PM Like renzhe says. You will come across a dozen times how to ask for the time, and this way is to ask for the exact hour, it literally means something along the lines of "which point (on the) clock"? edit: sorry, I meant "a dozen ways" of course Quote
adamnhms Posted July 30, 2013 at 06:29 PM Author Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 06:29 PM Like renzhe says. You will come across a dozen times how to ask for the time, and this way is to ask for the exact hour, it literally means something along the lines of "which point (on the) clock"? That's pretty much how my audio book was telling me to use it: as a question or to represent a time e.g. (yīdiǎnzhōng huózhě jiǔdiǎnzhōng) one o'clock or nine o'clock It'll probably be very useful in the future Quote
歐博思 Posted July 30, 2013 at 07:25 PM Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 07:25 PM Minor note: in post #6 yīdiǎnzhōng huózhě jiǔdiǎnzhōng should be huòzhě : fourth tone where underlined Quote
tooironic Posted July 30, 2013 at 10:11 PM Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 10:11 PM Note also that 几时 (jǐshí) is another common way of saying "when (at what time)?". Quote
adamnhms Posted July 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM Author Report Posted July 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM should be huòzhě : fourth tone where underlined My mistake, thanks for pointing that out Note also that 几时 (jǐshí) is another common way of saying "when (at what time)?". Will do, it seems like in Mandarin there are thousands of ways of expressing the same thought. Quote
Shelley Posted July 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM Report Posted July 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM Don't let that put you off, as far as I know there are thousands of way of expressing things in English too. Quote
ATkinG Posted July 31, 2013 at 11:33 AM Report Posted July 31, 2013 at 11:33 AM According to me "什么时候" (pinyin:- Shénme shíhou) is used to ask general time period like (Tomorrow, on Monday, next year etc) right? Quote
Ruben von Zwack Posted July 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM Report Posted July 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM This brings me to the difference between 时候 shíhou and 时间 shíjiān- can someone explain? Or give examples when to use one, when to use the other, and what would be wrong? I seem unable to wrap my head around this simple thing. Quote
tooironic Posted July 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM Report Posted July 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM @ATkinG Yes, that's right. @Ruben 时间 is more commonly used as a standalone noun meaning "time", e.g. 我们的时间有限 (our time is limited), 完成这项任务要多少时间? (how much time/how long will it take to finish this task?), etc., whilst 时候 is more often used in set phrases such as “...的时候” (when...), ”那(个)时候” (at that time), "有时候" (sometimes), etc. My C-E dictionary also gives the following usage tip: “时候”一般所指时间起始和终点比较模糊;“时间”一般指相对明确的时间段或时间点。("Shihou" usually refers to a time frame without a clear beginning and end, while "shijian" usually refers to a relatively explicit period of time or point in time.) Hope that helps. 2 Quote
Ruben von Zwack Posted July 31, 2013 at 10:11 PM Report Posted July 31, 2013 at 10:11 PM Thanks tooironic, it helps a lot! Quote
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