New Members dav1dr0well Posted August 7, 2013 at 06:03 PM New Members Report Posted August 7, 2013 at 06:03 PM I believe this is Chinese (but I could be mistaken). Could anyone take a crack at translating this? Thanks to all, David Quote
skylee Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:47 AM Report Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:47 AM It is Chinese. The vetical line on the right is the title of the Minister for Foreign Affairs appointed by the monarch of Great Britian. The minister was a marquis and his name started with syllable "sha" or similar. The vertical line on the left is the title of the envoy to Britian appointed by the emperor of the Qing Dynasty. His name started with the word 羅. The last bit at the bottom of the left line is, I think, in Manchurian, one of the official languages of the Qing Dynasty. PS the chinese envoy was probably 羅豐祿 -> New York Times 1 Quote
New Members dav1dr0well Posted August 8, 2013 at 01:53 AM Author New Members Report Posted August 8, 2013 at 01:53 AM Skylee: Thanks so much for your help! Quote
陳德聰 Posted August 8, 2013 at 02:14 AM Report Posted August 8, 2013 at 02:14 AM Robert Cecil was both the Prime Minister and the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the time. I am fairly certain "3rd Marquess of Salisbury" is where the 沙 comes from, but I have no idea how British titles work. Quote
skylee Posted August 8, 2013 at 03:01 AM Report Posted August 8, 2013 at 03:01 AM Yes, that probably refers to Salisbury. It is part of his name. (I am watching the BBC series the White Queen, and people in the drama are sometimes called by their title, like "Warwick", sometimes their real name, like "Richard Neville". Very confusing.) (PS - But I think perhaps this is not special. In a Chinese drama about the early years of Emperor Yongzheng, for example, he might be called by his name 胤禎, or his rank among the different princes 四阿哥/四爺, or his title 雍親王, etc.) Quote
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