Yorin Posted November 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM Report Posted November 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM In the Chinese texts I've read so far, I've seen both the word order "一个...的..." and "...的一个..." used. A Google search for the expressions listed in the title will give a similar amount of results. But I haven't figured out yet if these are just interchangeable in any kind of sentence, of if there is a case in which one of them must be used. Or if there is a difference in emphasis or anything. As far as I know, it's not possible to change the word order for the possessive 的, as in "我的一个朋友". But any further help and examples would be welcome! Quote
陳德聰 Posted November 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM Report Posted November 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM They're not interchangeable in every kind of sentence, and 漂亮的一个女孩 doesn't sound right by itself. 那么漂亮的一个女孩, 为什么会喜欢那么猥琐的一个人? 多漂亮的一个女孩! 我的孩子才十二岁, 很漂亮的一个女孩... Just from my feeling it seems to have to do with focus. The focus in the adjective-first constructions is the adjective phrase rather than the noun, where the mention of the girl is not the important information, and maybe she has been mentioned before. Quote
Yorin Posted November 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM Author Report Posted November 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM Thank you! What if the noun has no measure word? I have only seen adjective-first constructions like "今天是很忙的一天" in this case. "一很忙的天" doesn't seem correct. Quote
Michaelyus Posted November 12, 2013 at 01:28 PM Report Posted November 12, 2013 at 01:28 PM Again, focal emphasis. 今天 | 是... 的一天。 Quote
陳德聰 Posted November 12, 2013 at 04:53 PM Report Posted November 12, 2013 at 04:53 PM You're right that it isn't correct. They're not interchangeable! Quote
Yorin Posted November 12, 2013 at 05:14 PM Author Report Posted November 12, 2013 at 05:14 PM 谢谢! Quote
歐博思 Posted December 11, 2013 at 02:03 PM Report Posted December 11, 2013 at 02:03 PM In the Yip Po Ching Comprehensive CHinese Grammar book, there is a section dedicated to just this topic of where to place the measure word in relation to the other sentence modifiers. Unfortunately I don't have a copy on hand at the moment, but surely someone else does and can chime in Sometimes contra to the typical order of the modifiers established in that book, however, I have noticed a tendency for longer strings of attributives before a single noun to call for the measure word to become closer and closer to the noun being modified. Quote
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