AlexBlackman Posted December 6, 2013 at 07:37 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 07:37 AM Mastering Chinese seems a lot easier for some people than others, What personality traits contribute to efficient and successful study, and fluency? What habits are good? What kind of attitudes do successful learners have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymoose Posted December 6, 2013 at 08:43 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 08:43 AM Well, at least one needs perseverance. And preferably attention to detail and self awareness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hofmann Posted December 6, 2013 at 08:51 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 08:51 AM Most importantly, learners must want to learn the language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted December 6, 2013 at 09:11 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 09:11 AM What anonymoose said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li3wei1 Posted December 6, 2013 at 09:12 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 09:12 AM At the early stages, if you're studying in a class situation, you spend a lot of time repeating meaningless baby noises in front of other people. And not just baby noises, baby noises with tones! So you have to have the sort of personality that can handle that sort of performance anxiety. It gets better, but as with any language, you have to be prepared to make mistakes, be misunderstood, be laughed at, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted December 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM OCD Patience Discipline Musical ear Memory Lots of spare time Masochism 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li3wei1 Posted December 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM OCD Let me just say in advance that I don't know that much about OCD and I don't want to offend anyone by this, but I'd say I've met people who obsess about everything and have to know and understand and remember each fact before moving onto the next, and I'm not sure that's a good trait to have with this language. Sometimes you just have to accept that there are things you don't understand, that you won't remember, that have explanations that don't make sense and are shrouded in the mists of time. Character variants, regional pronunciation, tone sandhi, I've studied for many years and I still haven't graduated from the 'as long as they understand what I'm saying that's okay' phase to the 'I need to say this absolutely perfectly' phase. I suspect studying English is similar. Apologies if I am misunderstanding the nature of OCD. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben von Zwack Posted December 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM A rational, clearly-defined goal. This is especially important when you're a spoilt brat (like me) who's been told all their life "oh whow you're so good at languages, you're so talented". There you are, confusing how to write 给 and 结(婚) for the millionth time, listening to a "Miss Mouse" CD (age: ~2 years) and not understanding a word. You feel like drowning in a stormy sea, no land in sight, not even a life rescue boat. But then I would look at a picture of Jay Chou, and know I have the strength to carry on. And I won't give up before I reach good conversational level. It's legendary that he doesn't speak English. So when I meet him, I got to be able to talk to him, in such cool/funny/interesting way, that he'll ask for my phone number. And when he does so, I better know 1 is "yao" and not "yi"! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted December 6, 2013 at 01:11 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 01:11 PM Apologies if I am misunderstanding the nature of OCD.The whole post was partly tongue-in-cheek with no offence meant to chronic sufferers, but I've met some successful learners who mentioned having it. Wiki also says: "Its sufferers commonly share personality traits such as high attention to detail, avoidance of risk, careful planning, exaggerated sense of responsibility and a tendency to take time in making decisions." These are the sort of people who will not say "I'm tired, I'll do my flashcards tomorrow", or "tones don't matter, it's close enough for me". Getting obsessed about Chinese is a good starting point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted December 6, 2013 at 01:14 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 01:14 PM Avoidance of risk though - those high anxiety levels aren't going to help them get out there and risk making mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest realmayo Posted December 6, 2013 at 01:30 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 01:30 PM Nice thing with Chinese is how the requirements it puts on learners are varied (tones/characters/vocab/idioms/dialects/culture) so different people will find different things to really motivate them or which seem more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted December 6, 2013 at 04:18 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 04:18 PM Smart, friendly, handsome/pretty, with a great sense of humor. Humble yet self-confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooironic Posted December 6, 2013 at 09:35 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 at 09:35 PM 学中文,一定不要脸。 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted December 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM Don't be afraid to try to talk; don't be afraid of making mistakes. The world will not end if you fail to communicate smoothly. You will grow by trying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted December 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM Yellow fever. Also, you need nice pecs for some reason... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Andrews Posted December 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM Money, social skills, self-confidence, determination, and good hearing all help a LOT. Interest in Chinese culture, friends or family that speak Chinese, patience, time management skills, and persistence also help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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