那儿，那个，那儿的

[fij]

Can someone suggest a good description of the differences between 那儿+noun, 那个+noun and 那儿的+noun ? Or -- if this has been discussed already -- just a link?

 

Thanks

 

[edelweis]

那个+noun : that (house, dog, person...). Either you are pointing at it, or it's a (house, dog, person...) that was mentioned previously.

那儿的+noun : the (house, dog, person ...) which is/are there (at that place), or the type of (house, dog, person...) that is likely to be found there. I think in this case, the place was mentioned previously.

那儿+noun : I haven't encountered this up to now...

 

anyway ... hope this helps.

[tooironic]

那儿/那里 = there, e.g. 他在那儿。He is there. You could also add a noun directly after 那儿 in some situations e.g. 那儿（的）天气很好。The weather there is great. I think in most cases you will add a 的 after 那儿 though.

 

那儿的 = 那儿 (there) + 的 (possessive particle, used when you want to add a noun), e.g. 那儿的面条很好吃。The noodles there are really yummy.

 

(那儿/那里 should not be confused with 哪儿/哪里 = where, e.g. 他在哪儿？Where is he?)

 

那个 = that, e.g. 那个人真棒。That person is brilliant. You can add pretty much any countable noun after 那个, but 个 should be substituted with the correct measure word when needed, e.g. 那本书很好看。That book is great.

 

(那个 should not be confused with 哪个 = which one, e.g. 你最喜欢哪个？Which is your favourite? 你最喜欢哪本书？Which book is your favourite?)

 

Hope that helps.