semantic nuance Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:26 AM Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:26 AM Hi, A friend asked me about the pronunciations of apostrophe 's'. I'm not a native speaker of English, and would like to ask you for help. How is each 's' in blue pronounced? a. Grace’s gift b. Josh’s pet c. Jess’s mom Should I say 'Jess's mom' pronounced as 'Jess mom' or 'Jess s mom'? Thanks in advance. Quote
Tiana Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:45 AM Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:45 AM I'd say as if they are Graces, Joshes and Jesses (pronounce the last "s" in them as /z/). But you may like to wait for second opinion 2 Quote
li3wei1 Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:45 AM Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:45 AM I would pronounce all of them as 'iz'. Sorry I don't know IPA. 1 Quote
semantic nuance Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:56 AM Author Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 06:56 AM Thanks, Tiana, and li3wei1. Any rules about this kind of pronunciation? Quote
Tiana Posted May 18, 2015 at 07:14 AM Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 07:14 AM I don't know if there are rules about these, but let me try to (re-)invent one: If you already know how to pronounce the plural form of words with such endings (i.e., Graces, Joshes and Jesses), then do the same when they're in the possessive form. 1 Quote
li3wei1 Posted May 18, 2015 at 07:20 AM Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 07:20 AM If your neighbors on either side are both called Jones, and one night they both throw loud parties, and you want to say that the Joneses's parties kept you up all night, how do you pronounce that? Quote
Tiana Posted May 18, 2015 at 07:37 AM Report Posted May 18, 2015 at 07:37 AM For "Joneses's parties", I would write "Joneses' parties" and pronounce it like a plural. Anyone does it differently? 1 Quote
semantic nuance Posted May 19, 2015 at 12:05 AM Author Report Posted May 19, 2015 at 12:05 AM A related question: When do people use ' instead of 's? For example, Charles' car? Is there any rule? How to distinguish 's from '? Quote
889 Posted May 19, 2015 at 02:34 AM Report Posted May 19, 2015 at 02:34 AM If the s is there to make the word plural, then the possessive is s' not s's. E.g., "My parents' house." For extra credit, there's also the rule against three sibillants. So it's "Jesus' followers" and "the boss' serfs," even though three sibillants are actually pronounced. Note that this rule is not always followed. 2 Quote
Tiana Posted May 19, 2015 at 06:48 AM Report Posted May 19, 2015 at 06:48 AM Note that this rule is not always followed That's true. Although non-native speakers will try their best to learn the rules, native speakers do have the prerogative to have variations. The same in all languages Quote
semantic nuance Posted May 19, 2015 at 01:28 PM Author Report Posted May 19, 2015 at 01:28 PM Thanks for all of your help!! Much appreciated! Quote
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