Ichini Posted July 21, 2015 at 05:45 PM Report Posted July 21, 2015 at 05:45 PM I'm having to translate this article and I found this phrase "并发展成为一项以强身健体" but I just don't understand it! Is 项 a classifier? If it is why is it followed by verbs? It's probably something I should know but my chinese gets rusty in the summer Quote
edelweis Posted July 21, 2015 at 06:51 PM Report Posted July 21, 2015 at 06:51 PM Most probably you haven't parsed the sentence correctly. Google says: 并发展成为一项以强身健体、娱乐身心为主导的，集舞狮、武术、技巧等为一体的体育运动项目 All the things enumerated in the middle are merely qualifiers of 体育运动项目. 2 Quote
Hofmann Posted July 21, 2015 at 07:46 PM Report Posted July 21, 2015 at 07:46 PM It's a classifier for 項目. 1 Quote
陳德聰 Posted July 21, 2015 at 09:37 PM Report Posted July 21, 2015 at 09:37 PM Is there any nuance difference between 一项项目 and 一个项目? Other than the part where I think 一项项目 sounds absolutely atrocious... ? 1 Quote
edelweis Posted July 21, 2015 at 09:49 PM Report Posted July 21, 2015 at 09:49 PM my 2 (euro)cents: when there's a lot of stuff separating the classifier from the noun, a less generic classifier helps the reader or listener anticipate the type of noun, it makes the sentence much easier to understand. And most probably it sounds more educated too. No? Quote
陳德聰 Posted July 22, 2015 at 12:00 AM Report Posted July 22, 2015 at 12:00 AM I actually find it sounds less educated by way of failed attempt at being more fancy, but maybe that's just me. It feels redundant when I get to the end of the sentence already knowing that it is some kind of 项目-esque thing (expecting that it will not just be 项目) and it is just 项目... I don't find that it is any easier to understand either... It seems like a poor writing choice. 1 Quote
edelweis Posted July 22, 2015 at 02:02 AM Report Posted July 22, 2015 at 02:02 AM hm ok. I don't see it this way, perhaps because I don't expect a 项目-esque word after 项 but a 工作-esque word hehe. Probably I don't read enough... Quote
skylee Posted July 22, 2015 at 07:29 AM Report Posted July 22, 2015 at 07:29 AM I tend to agree with #6. I hate repetition when it does not feel right. Haha. Quote
gaogaozhan Posted July 22, 2015 at 09:09 PM Report Posted July 22, 2015 at 09:09 PM If it is why is it followed by verbs? You mean 以? That's actually a preposition 介词 Quote
Ichini Posted July 23, 2015 at 01:11 PM Author Report Posted July 23, 2015 at 01:11 PM Thank you so much for everyone's help! Quote
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