taryn Posted June 16, 2005 at 09:55 PM Report Posted June 16, 2005 at 09:55 PM I’m trying to figure out whether or not Chinese in as much as writing/reading is concerned, is considered “syllabic.” (In fact, I don’t even know if that’s a word. I’m no linguist.) I’m a beginning learner but I’ve repeatedly noticed that as I’ve been transcribing Pimsleur, one syllable typically corresponds to one character. [Except the “r” sound in annoying instances like 过一会儿.] Most of the learning materials I’ve encounter go to great lengths to explain that Chinese is not a phonetic language but I’ve not yet a seen a reference to the pattern of syllables to characters. I only noticed because having briefly studied Japanese, I had noticed a similar pattern. (But I guess hiragana and katakana are both syllabic AND phonetic.) Anyways, I guess my question is whether or not that is a Chinese language pattern that I should expect to continue or does it simply occur with easier words? Quote
roddy Posted June 17, 2005 at 01:58 AM Report Posted June 17, 2005 at 01:58 AM Characters always refer to one syllable. Words can be single character, single syllable (我), double character+double syllable (我们) and so on, so on. There was an article on Sinosplice.com recently about multisyllabic characters - perhaps of interest, but not of much practical value to the learner. Roddy Quote
taryn Posted June 17, 2005 at 01:59 PM Author Report Posted June 17, 2005 at 01:59 PM Roddy you rock! Actually, that article is pretty interesting. I love language! I'm seriously contemplating a career change... Quote
beirne Posted June 17, 2005 at 04:50 PM Report Posted June 17, 2005 at 04:50 PM FYI, most characters have a phonetic component, but it may have been phonetic a thousand years ago when the syllable was pronounced differently. Knowing the character components will give you a guess as to how a character is pronounced if you don't have anything else to go one. Nothing more than a guess but it may help in a pinch. Quote
Harpoon Posted June 17, 2005 at 08:51 PM Report Posted June 17, 2005 at 08:51 PM I just haven't figured out when it's a meaning component, and when it's a phonetic component :o Quote
Taibei Posted June 18, 2005 at 02:49 AM Report Posted June 18, 2005 at 02:49 AM Taryn, Statements like "Chinese is not a phonetic language" are fairly common; but they're a result of confusion. It's important not to conflate Chinese characters with Mandarin or any other language. Chinese characters are a script (a means for recording language); they are not a language themselves. Properly speaking, they are a morphosyllabic writing system. Reading the above selection and this one should help answer your questions. Quote
Harpoon Posted June 20, 2005 at 12:32 AM Report Posted June 20, 2005 at 12:32 AM Stage 1: Protowriting Form: Pictograph of wheat: Function: To represent the idea "wheat" Stage 2: Real Writing Form: Pictograph of wheat: or Function: To represent the word ləg ("wheat") To represent the word ləg ("come") hmm perhaps this explains the chinese homophone issue? Quote
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