Translating Asian Characters in Images

[SamSchuster]

I am hoping this group can help, I have been trying to decipher some porcelain marks, but to no avail, tried drawing them and then translating, got some really interesting translations, such as "Bundled Hair JU li" which I think is probably incorrect.

 

The first is on a porcelain spoon that I think is Rose Mandarin, but can't find the mark anywhere.

 

The second is on a small lidded urn which I believe is also Rose Mandarin but again cannot find the mark, hoping someone can make out the characters in the corners.

 

I appreciate all your help.  I just retired and am trying to develop a hobby.

 

Thanks

 

[Shelley]

You may have already been here but there are lots of marks here that might help to identify yours http://gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml

[SamSchuster]

Shelly, Thank you,  I went to Gotheborg and found the first one, it is Qianlong Nian Zhi from between 1930 and 1970, but can't find any characters or images that match the second.  One of my issues with searching for Asian marks is the orientation of the mark, if it doesn't have the 大 (Dau?) symbol in it I struggle to find the correct positioning as well as which language it may be, Chinese, Japanese, or Korean.  The chracter I focused on in the second mark is the bottom (I think) right which looks like a backward lower case j with an umlaut or two dots above it.

 

I appreciate the help.

 

Sam

[889]

The one on the left purports to be a Guangxu reign mark.

 

You'll have to provide a better picture for the other mark.

[SamSchuster]

I appreciate your looking at it, is it the top right character that denotes the Guangxu reign?  The other ones is the best picture I can get, the mark is really faded, I was hoping someone could make out the characters, the only one I can somewhat make out looks like a backward lowercase j with two dots over it.

[889]

The right two characters are 光緒 Guangxu and the left two are 年製 year made.

[SamSchuster]

Thanks, as I learn different characters it makes researching easier.

[bURL]

Lower picture, the seal could be 泛艺工业 in simplified characters

(need to rotate the picture counter-clockwise before)

link to the referring website :

http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Collectibles/31335241.html

[SamSchuster]

I really appreciate the help, orienting the characters is the toughest part.