ivomd Posted February 14, 2017 at 01:26 PM Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 01:26 PM Hi guys, These don't seem to be chinese signs? Can anyone translate if they do are? Thanks! Quote
889 Posted February 14, 2017 at 01:35 PM Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 01:35 PM Of course they are Chinese characters. Somewhat loosely based on oracle bone script. http://www.vgfun.net/lee/langpage/scripts/other/oraclebone03.png 1 Quote
ivomd Posted February 14, 2017 at 02:30 PM Author Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 02:30 PM Thanks. This is the rest of the text. Can you translate? They just seemed odd to me. Thanks! Quote
889 Posted February 14, 2017 at 02:44 PM Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 02:44 PM Just a note for anyone posting requests here for translations on works of art and such: The main inscription, to the right, is usually just some poetic rambling, often taken from Chinese classics. Both hard to translate and not very helpful if you do so. The interesting bits of an inscription are almost always at the far left; if you're lucky, this will contain the name of the artist, a date, and sometime even a location. Point is, when you post inscriptions you need to take care to show the left-most portion clearly, and head-on. 2 Quote
Publius Posted February 14, 2017 at 02:56 PM Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 02:56 PM Doesn't make any sense. 20 characters are supposed to be a poem. Have tried every direction but can't seem to find two characters that rhyme. (Of course I can only recognize maybe half) 1 Quote
ivomd Posted February 14, 2017 at 06:41 PM Author Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 06:41 PM Does this help? Quote
Publius Posted February 14, 2017 at 09:59 PM Report Posted February 14, 2017 at 09:59 PM 壬戌夏月 Summer of 1982 國華製於 Made by Guohua at 潯陽 Xunyang (a district of Jiujiang city, Jiangxi province, China) Lan Guohua (藍國華) is a famous artist. http://www.artnet.com/artists/lan-guohua/past-auction-results But I'm not sure about your piece, or if this Guohua is that Guohua. The red seal is unreadable. Those big characters look more like random decorative patterns than real, meaningful seal script text. Frankly the whole thing looks suspicious to me. 1 Quote
ivomd Posted February 15, 2017 at 07:35 AM Author Report Posted February 15, 2017 at 07:35 AM Thanks but very strange. I know this is not an antiques forum but maybe I can show the front. The jar is 100% an old jar most likely around 1900. The baking is from from that period as well as the painting. The front consists of a very fine! painted love scene. It really is very fine and very fluent painted. Almost like a cartoon! But I agree the characters (especially the poem) look suspicious. Maybe they are put there more recently because there was nothing on the back? Like there is a big marker number on the bottom. Are you really sure the date reads 1982? Sorry for the bad pictures! Can try some better when it's light. Quote
arrow Posted February 15, 2017 at 08:16 AM Report Posted February 15, 2017 at 08:16 AM This is just common inscription. 眉寿无疆 寿命昌宜 庚王其子孙万亿年乍宝用之 1 Quote
Publius Posted February 15, 2017 at 08:21 AM Report Posted February 15, 2017 at 08:21 AM Yes the front is indeed very nice. About the date. There's one thing you should know: traditionally the Chinese use a cyclical calendar, the symbols to represent a year repeat every 60 years. So 壬戌 can be 1982 or 1922 or 1862 or 2042. Sorry for misleading you. My bad. 1 Quote
ivomd Posted February 15, 2017 at 10:30 AM Author Report Posted February 15, 2017 at 10:30 AM Thanks! Didn't know that and interesting! Should be closer to 1862 I believe. But I agree that the back is suspicious. Most of these jars have some characters on the back. Maybe someone (here in the west) put these later on because otherwise there was nothing on. Will see if it is marking but it doesn't look like it. I have never seen a jar like this with this style. It really is very very well painted but still very simple. It looks like Qian Cai style but still different. Quote
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