Popular Post abcdefg Posted April 29, 2017 at 08:26 AM Popular Post Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 08:26 AM I've enjoyed this delicious side dish for several years, but have only recently begun making it at home. That might have been a big "waistline mistake" because it isn't low calorie and it is definitely addictive. But I'll show you how it's done nonetheless and let you wrestle with the weighty moral implications on your own dime. It's a strange fact of Yunnan life that we call potatoes 洋芋 ("foreign tuber") instead of 土豆 ("earth bean") like most of China. People with 3-wheeled bicycle carts 三轮车 drive slowly by my old housing complex two or three times a week shouting "买洋芋", emphasizing the rising second tone of the 样, the hard downward fourth tone of the 芋 and the scooped-out third of 买 until it sounds like a type of regional music. Hard to resist getting some at the bargain rate of only 3 Yuan per kilo, especially when delivered to my door. Scrub and peel two medium sized ones. And now you have a prime chance to practice your 刀法,to polish up your knife skills. Young Chinese chefs spend days upon days doing things like making accordion cuts in cucumbers that allow them to be stretched to three feet without breaking. Accomplished master chefs can do things like boning a small snake blindfolded at high speed without any of the tiny bones winding up in the meat. You want the match-stick slivers to be fairly uniform in size. Doing this with a sharp knife 菜刀 works better from a texture 口感 standpoint than using a grater. It also makes the potatoes less likely to dry out with cooking. Adopt a mindful zen-type focus and visualize yourself as a human Cuisinart or Robot-coupe machine. Suspend all considerations of time and don't be in a hurry. Don't rinse the sliced potatoes because that would remove some of their natural amylose and make them less adherent; it would make them stick together less well. Sprinkle in a large teaspoon of flour; mix well with your chopsitcks, breaking up any clumps. Thinly slice a small segment of red bell pepper 红椒 and scallion 大葱,using only the white part of the latter. Set them aside to use later 备用 as a raw fresh garnish. Actually, I prefer to prepare these before starting the potato. If cut potato stands too long, it can discolor. And now you have a chance to test your trusty iron wok, to see if it has been well cured and find out whether its carefully-acquired patina will provide non-stick cooking for about 10 minutes. Bring the wok up to about three fourths of its maximum heat (tested with a drop of water) and add a bit more oil than you would normally use for a vegetable stir fry. The recipes I've read all say that a flat bottom fry pan 平底锅 actually works better, but I don't have one. Add the slivered potatoes 土豆丝 and stir them around quickly with chopsticks 筷子 to distribute them evenly. Smooth them out with your spatula 锅铲。Now shake on another teaspoon or two of oil onto the surface; it will soak right through. I use sesame oil for that 香油。 Now turn the heat to medium-low and don't disturb them until they set, one or two minutes. Then I press them down with my spatula to be sure there are no thick spots or bubbles, at which point I cover them with a pot lid that is slightly smaller than the wok. Shake the wok from time to time to slide the pancake around inside while three or four long minutes tick by. Use your chopsticks and a corner of the spatula to gently lift an edge to peek and see if the underside is nicely browned 金黄。If so, you are ready to turn the whole works over. If you are supremely confident, you can toss it in the air as though you were a TV celebrity chef. I usually opt for flipping it with the aid of two spatulas or a plate. It's the conservative approach, and as such flirts less with disaster, albeit sacrificing a degree of flair. Continue cooking the other side another 5 minutes or so on low. When the whole thing is done, turn it out onto a large plate and dust it with dried red pepper flakes 干辣椒, Sichuan prickly ash 花椒粉,and salt 食盐。I like to do that with my fingers so as not to get too much. Garnish the finished product with the bell pepper and scallion. Serve it with a smile. You can consider it a success if the outside is crisp and golden while the inside is still white and tender 脆嫩。If you are eating this fine dish communally, Chinese-style, you tear off a bite-sized piece of the cake with your chopsticks, trying to include a sliver or two of the red pepper and scallion. This is Chinese food, Yunnan style, that you can make in the West without any rare or hard to find ingredients. By all means give it a try, but don't say I didn't warn you about it being habit forming. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted April 29, 2017 at 09:36 AM Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 09:36 AM And yet again another fine offering from abcdefg. Thank you. It reminds me of hash browns but of course with a chinese twist. A question: Do you cook the red bell pepper and scallions? What is prickly ash? Is it uniquely chinese? or does it have a western name/equivalent? Thanks again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted April 29, 2017 at 10:19 AM Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 10:19 AM 1 hour ago, Shelley said: A question: Do you cook the red bell pepper and scallions?...What is prickly ash? Thanks, Shelley. The scallions and red bell pepper are raw, just wash and slice them thin. Actually, they aren't an essential part of the recipe and restaurants don't always use them. But I think they make it look nice as well as adding a pleasantly fresh taste/texture dimension. Prickly ash goes by other names as well, most often Sichuan peppercorns, even though it's not truly a type of pepper. It's the husk of a small seed pod that grows on tall shrubs and short trees. Supposedly, it's a member of the citrus family. It's what gives many Sichuan dishes their unique mouth-numbing quality. Not exactly hot; difficult to describe. It is the 麻 component of the 麻辣 seasoning duo. Dishes which are 麻辣 in flavor rule Chongqing and are famous in its hot pot 火锅 and other bold cuisine. Even though this spice is most commonly associated with Sichuan, lots and lots of it is grown in northern Yunnan as well. I've walked through hectares of it up around Lijiang. Most trees were 2 or 3 meters tall; some were cultivated, while others were growing wild. It can be used green, just as picked from the trees on which it grows, but more often it is dried and then sometimes ground into a powder. Several varieties are found. In Chengdu I once had a terrific and memorable whole fish served on a platter covered in a sauce that featured two or three kinds of these, both green and dried, along with several kinds of peppers. Made my mouth sit up and take notice, but in a delightful way. These shown lower right are from my kitchen cabinet spice box just now. 红花椒。In some dishes I use them whole, in others I crush them with the back of a spoon. Sometimes I put them in the cooking oil at the start of a stir-fry dish along with dried chilies, swirl them around half a minute, then fish them out and toss them away, just allowing them to lightly season the oil, nothing more. Today I used them ground into a powder 花椒粉。 More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanthoxylum And here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sichuan_pepper Quote Sichuan pepper's unique aroma and flavour is not hot or pungent like black, white, or chili peppers. Instead, it has slight lemony overtones and creates a tingly numbness in the mouth (caused by its 3% of hydroxy alpha sanshool) that sets the stage for hot spices. According to Harold McGee in On Food and Cooking, they are not simply pungent; "they produce a strange, tingling, buzzing, numbing sensation that is something like the effect of carbonated drinks or of a mild electric current (touching the terminals of a nine-volt battery to the tongue). (From the second Wikipedia article, linked above.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxi Posted April 29, 2017 at 11:33 AM Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 11:33 AM 55 minutes ago, abcdefg said: they produce a strange, tingling, buzzing, numbing sensation that is something like the effect of carbonated drinks or of a mild electric current (touching the terminals of a nine-volt battery to the tongue That's a very good description! I like to hold a grain or 2 in my mouth as a healthier alternative to sweets or gum, chewing the grain now and then to trigger that tingly 'mild electric current' and a lingering citrusy-grassy-peppery flavour. No ill effects from this habit, so far. @Shelley you can find them in many supermarkets these days, I like Bart's, they are quite mild and feel fresh. @abcdefg, thanks for another delicious dish. Thanks for the warning about the calories, I'll admire this one from a distance. Besides, my knife skills are way below 0. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted April 29, 2017 at 12:59 PM Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 12:59 PM On 4/29/2017 at 7:33 PM, Luxi said: Thanks for the warning about the calories, I'll admire this one from a distance. Not sure exactly how rich this is, but I've learned the hard way that it doesn't come out well if made with too little oil. My wok is an old-fashioned cast iron model, 硬铸铁, well-seasoned but without any modern non-stick coating. Since this dish doesn't require high heat, a non-stick 不粘 flat-bottom skillet 平底锅 really might do it better. One of the reference recipes I used in learning how to make this dish commented that it was: 油而不腻 (made with oil but not greasy.) I order this dish sometimes at my favorite hole-in-the-wall family-style 家常菜 Kunming eatery, and it arrives at the table golden and crisp, but with quite a bit of visible oil on the plate. Most recipes for potato pancakes 土豆饼 from other parts of China use an egg and flour as binders. They tend to cook up thicker and more chewy, and are usually smaller in diameter instead of covering the entire pan like this 云南式 Yunnan version does. In any case, it's not something I would want to have every day. Saving it for special occasions works fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted April 29, 2017 at 03:29 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 03:29 PM Thanks for the info. Don't think I will be seeking out prickly ash, it doesn't sound like the sort of thing I would like. I didn't like the tea that did a similar thing. I might add a generous dash of black pepper and salt. I would like it as a main dish but it might make a nice change as a side dish instead of fries or similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
889 Posted April 29, 2017 at 07:20 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 at 07:20 PM In some places, Sichuan in particular, you'll find this dish on the menu as 干煸土豆丝. As always with Chinese food there are many variations, but mainly this comes either as abcdefg's flattish dish or as a big loose pile of crisp fried shredded goodies. You have to ask what version a particular place serves. Sichuan pepper should always be in there, though, without asking. And it's near addictive. Hard to imagine anyone not liking it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zander1 Posted April 30, 2017 at 03:43 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 at 03:43 AM Looks good! Reminds me of a Swiss Rostii. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted April 30, 2017 at 04:32 AM Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 at 04:32 AM 9 hours ago, 889 said: In some places, Sichuan in particular, you'll find this dish on the menu as 干煸土豆丝. Yes indeed, in Kunming too. Sometimes here in restaurants it also shows up listed as 干焙土豆丝。Yunnan restaurants typically also offer a shredded potato dish that just cooks the loose potato slivers a little bit and piles them up with scallions and cilantro leaves. These are completely white, only cooked enough to become limber. They are sometimes doused with a couple spoons of boiling oil as a finishing touch (炝)。 Quote ...a big loose pile of crisp fried shredded goodies. Not sure quite how to break this to you, @889, but those are made by deep frying in oil, like the French fries at McDonald's. Ouch, from a health standpoint, but I realize we only live once and tomorrow we may die. It's been my impression that Chinese often prefer potatoes that are not fully cooked. @889, have you found that too? The ubiquitous streetside stands which sell fried potatoes, either as slices or chunks, in small paper packages with a sharp skewer stick for 1 or 2 kuai, seem to almost almost always deliberately undercook them. They fry them in deep oil and then toss them in another pan with a mix of spices. They are popular as a small "walking around" snack 小吃。I just wish they cooked them longer. These vendors attract middle school students like yesterday's trash draws flies. But I have given up on buying them. As to Kunming street food, every now and then I do succumb to a variation in which shredded potatoes are shaped into a bird's nest along the sides of a large wire strainer and immersed in dark and nasty boiling oil until well done. Then they are sprinkled with spices. Crispy and golden. I will deny under oath with one hand on the Bible that I have ever tried this guilty pleasure, or maybe plead the fifth to avoid both perjury and self incrimination. When traveling in the north, for example Dalian, Beijing and Harbin, I love the roasted potatoes, toasted in their skin, that one sees everywhere along the street. They so hit the spot when the weather is nippy and you can see your breath in front of your face. Even better that the roasted white potatoes, in my opinion, are the roasted sweet and red potatoes 烤白薯 and 烤红薯。 We have them here in Kunming in the winter too, but the local people tend to much prefer our special purple potatoes 紫薯, either steamed or roasted. They are small and pointed on both ends. I would wager they are part of every breakfast buffet I've ever had here (Yunnan) in the cheapest guest house or the fanciest star-level hotel. The stereotype of the south only eating rice as its starchy staple food and the north only eating wheat products and potatoes, is far from true today. Overall, I would have to say that Yunnan's favorite way to serve potatoes with a meal is probably "Grandma style" either with fennel, scallion or some other small green vegetable as an additive. Recipe and discussion here: https://www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/53803-grandmas-fennel-potatoes-茴香老奶洋芋/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
889 Posted April 30, 2017 at 10:00 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 at 10:00 AM Yes, potato-based dishes in China are usually sautéed very lightly with little oil, and as a result the potatoes seem almost raw by Western standards. The first time I tried a dish made like that I wasn't even sure what I was eating. This is pretty much everywhere in China. But on the few trips I've made to Yunnan, I've found a tendency there to undercook everything, including meat. And an even more common tendency to load on the salt. Bad news if I forget to add 盐少一点! to my order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted April 30, 2017 at 10:25 AM Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 at 10:25 AM 4 hours ago, 889 said: Yes, potato-based dishes in China are usually sautéed very lightly with little oil, and as a result the potatoes seem almost raw by Western standards. Agree. That has been my experience too. Went out this afternoon to run some errands and passed a fried potato vendor stall, lower left, and a woman selling roasted white potatoes on one of those mobile "fire-barrel" carts. When people back in the US ask about the "real China," I always think of simple scenes like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted May 2, 2017 at 02:16 AM Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 02:16 AM Just wondering if any of you living in the northeast of China 东北 have run into these large potato pancakes, that are almost as large as the pan in which they were made? I've read on-line that they are less common there than in Yunnan and that northern restaurants typically serve smaller, slightly thicker versions. @Publius, @ChTTay, @lips, @Napkat -- what has been your experience? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 2, 2017 at 03:14 AM Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 03:14 AM I never saw them in the north, and where I used to live had plenty of small restaurants run by 东北银 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted May 2, 2017 at 04:51 AM Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 04:51 AM Thanks, Imron. That confirms what I had suspected. Is 东北银 a 口语 slang? In restaurants they typically use lots and lots of oil to prevent it sticking to the pan and breaking into pieces. At home one can avoid excess in that department, but it requires a well-seasoned wok or fry pan. I'm proud of mine and it has been a joy to use. Takes only two minutes after each use to maintain a lustrous patina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted May 2, 2017 at 06:12 AM Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 06:12 AM In the north eastern dialects, 人 is commonly pronounced 银. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted May 2, 2017 at 11:49 AM Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 11:49 AM I see! Never would have guessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted May 2, 2017 at 12:05 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 12:05 PM 干煸土豆丝 wouldn't come out as a cake like this, and it would probably be fried a bit longer and in quite a bit more oil. The 干煸 implies that the moisture in the ingredient has been deep-fried out. It's a fairly common cooking technique in Sichuan and can be used to make a whole range of things - surely everyone has had 干煸四季豆? It also works well with meats and is how dishes like 辣子鸡丁 are made. Or was that 辣子鸡. Someone once insisted to me that 辣子鸡 and 辣子鸡丁 were two different dishes. Anyway, its all delicious, as you would expect with anything deep-fried in oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
889 Posted May 2, 2017 at 02:57 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 at 02:57 PM I agree that in theory 干煸土豆丝 should be reserved for the loose form of the dish, thus: http://www.wanhuajing.com/d263821 But in fact, usage isn't so strictly observed, and ordering 干煸土豆丝 off a restaurant menu will indeed sometimes bring you the pancake version of the dish: http://www.xiachufang.com/recipe/1004932/ http://home.meishichina.com/recipe-305014.html http://www.douguo.com/cookbook/811289.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted May 3, 2017 at 01:35 AM Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 at 01:35 AM The official names can be confusing; no doubt about that. The places where I usually eat these potato pancakes in Kunming don't have written menus, and that actually makes it easier. One orders standing in the front part of the kitchen while looking into the refrigerated display cabinet that has today's meats and vegetables. I tell them I want the 大洋芋丝干饼, sometimes supplementing it with a hand gesture describing something large and round like a plate. When they confirm my order back to me, they drop the 大 and 饼,just saying 洋芋干。I figured that was probably short for 干煸 or 干煸饼,but I do not really know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted May 3, 2017 at 06:07 AM Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 at 06:07 AM That sounds like an amazing place. What happened the first time you went? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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