New Members Etienne Posted September 17, 2017 at 03:57 AM New Members Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 at 03:57 AM Hello, I'm currently translating 种树郭橐驼传 but I've some troubles with a few sentences : 则其天者全而其性得矣 here the 者 has no sense right ? 不抑耗其实而已 I think 已 is supposed to be a verb here, but I don't understand it's sense in that sentence, 停止 ? Mmmmh 其培之也,若不过焉则不及 in this sentence I don't understand the 其培之也 and also the purpose of 焉, is like 于之 ? 吾小人辍飧饔以劳吏者,且不得暇 I'm quite confused with this one especially because I don't understand the 以 and the 者 传其事以为官戒 as far as I've understood the 传 is pronounced zhuan4 here. Despite understanding the sentence I just don't get the 传 Thank you for your help, the full text is available here : https://baike.baidu.com/item/种树郭橐驼传 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publius Posted September 17, 2017 at 08:52 AM Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 at 08:52 AM It's pretty much all in the annotations. 则其天者全而其性得矣 32. 则其天者全而其性得矣:那么树木的生长规律可以保全而它的本性得到了。则:那么,连词。者:助词,无义。 不抑耗其实而已 In the note to the first half of the parallelism: 33. 不害其长:不妨碍它的生长。而已:罢了,句末语气词连用。 而已 is still frequently used in modern Chinese, e.g. 人生不過如此而已。 More examples here: https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1958198230403798660.html 其培之也,若不过焉则不及 38. 若不过焉则不及:如果不是过多就是不够。若……则……,如果……那么(就),连接假设复句的固定结构。焉:句中语气词,无义。 You shouldn't have difficulty with 其培之也 if you understand a previous sentence 凡植木之性,其本欲舒,其培欲平,其土欲故,其筑欲密。 培 means 'to earth up' -- (Horticulture) (tr, adverb) to cover (part of a plant, esp the stem) with soil in order to protect from frost, light, etc. 吾小人辍飧饔以劳吏者,且不得暇 63. 吾小人:我们小百姓。辍飧(sūn)饔(yōng):不吃饭。辍,停止。飧,晚饭。饔,早饭。以:来,连词。劳吏者:慰劳当差的。且:尚且。暇:空暇。 者 is the same usage as in 夫A者,B也。 In other words, a topic marker. 传其事以为官戒 71. 传:作传。以为:以(之)为,把它作为。戒:鉴戒。 詞類活用/Conversion (esp. verbification) is extremely common in Classical Chinese. You might want to brush up on classical grammar a bit: https://baike.baidu.com/item/词类活用 & https://baike.baidu.com/item/为动用法 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Etienne Posted September 17, 2017 at 09:27 AM Author New Members Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 at 09:27 AM Thank you for your answer, I wanted to be sure that everything in the annotations is correct. I don't know why I couldn't understand 其培之也, but thank you. I'm browsing your link, but sadly my chinese is not well enough in order to understand everything, but I appreciate the help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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