abcdefg Posted December 3, 2017 at 07:44 AM Author Report Posted December 3, 2017 at 07:44 AM 30 minutes ago, 陳德聰 said: I also often feel like anything involving ground meat tends to be both more economical and more likely to be delicious if I make it at home, because I get to season the meat however I like, often with lots of 花椒 and 孜然. I agree with you 老陈。Plus when I buy ground meat I have the butcher grind it to order. I buy good quality meat and have it made 70 or 80 percent lean, depending on the specific use. Ground meat purchased in bulk for restaurant use here can contain undesirable scraps and "mystery items." And, not only the meat, but I can't always count on the restaurant to use decent oil. I think the big scandal over "gutter oil" 地沟油 has passed, but some places might still cut corners by reusing their oil too many times. 1 Quote
Guest realmayo Posted December 3, 2017 at 09:54 AM Report Posted December 3, 2017 at 09:54 AM 8 hours ago, abcdefg said: I've never tried 东坡肉 at home. Do you use a clay pot? Well technically yes, but it's a Le Creuset saucepan. Recipe is from the wonderful Fuchsia Dunlop, you can see how simple it is: https://pleasepasstherecipe.com/2016/10/27/dongpo-pork/ Quote
abcdefg Posted December 3, 2017 at 10:18 AM Author Report Posted December 3, 2017 at 10:18 AM Thanks, @realmayo -- That recipe does look completely straight forward. I have put it on my calendar to make sometime later this week or next. I've eaten it out several times and it has always been special. The first time I ever tasted it was sitting on a sunny terrace at Longjing Hill 龙井山 outside West Lake 西湖 overlooking the manicured tea fields at noon. It came with a simple green vegetable and steamed rice. I complimented it with a "bottomless glass" of early-season 明前 Longjing tea 龙井茶。The waitress put the dry tea leaves in the glass and served it with a large thermos of water that I could use for refills at my own pace. The combination of the food, the beverage and the scenery made a strong impression. It was one of those memorable "life is good" moments. Quote
Guest realmayo Posted December 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM Report Posted December 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM Longjin would certainly fit the supposed geographical base of the recipe! The Dunlop book itself stresses that it's got to be a good Shaoxing wine, good enough to drink on its own. Quote
abcdefg Posted December 3, 2017 at 12:41 PM Author Report Posted December 3, 2017 at 12:41 PM Thanks for the tip on the wine. That makes sense, since it's not just a "splash" in a stir-fry. I'll buy some better quality Shaoxing before making this dish. I usually just get a random bottle from the grocery store shelf. This time I'll research it a little better. Cold weather is the time for this kind of food. Can't wait to give it a try! Quote
imron Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:50 AM Report Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:50 AM 18 hours ago, abcdefg said: I think the big scandal over "gutter oil" 地沟油 has passed The scandal might have "passed" but it wouldn't surprise me if the practice is still going. 1 Quote
lips Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:18 AM Report Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:18 AM Plain steamed white rice. 1 Quote
abcdefg Posted December 4, 2017 at 04:48 AM Author Report Posted December 4, 2017 at 04:48 AM 2 hours ago, lips said: Plain steamed white rice. Lips, do you use an electric rice cooker 电饭煲 or do you make it in a pot on the stove? Quote
lips Posted December 4, 2017 at 05:54 AM Report Posted December 4, 2017 at 05:54 AM Electric rice cooker. It's been many years since I last cooked rice in a pot over fire. Quote
abcdefg Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:30 PM Author Report Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:30 PM 7 hours ago, lips said: Electric rice cooker. It's been many years since I last cooked rice in a pot over fire. Me too. Quote
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