反了他了

[kavanin]

What is the meaning of 反了他了, please?

这时候你还管什么面子不面子，真是糊涂啊！这小子，反了他了，我们家心肝宝贝似的宠着，他竟下得了手！

Context: Brother is talking to the sister, who was beaten by her husband and came to her brother's to stay overnight.

[Hua]

I suspect this is a northern idiom (I live in south). It is a curse for the occasion where you are angered by someone who acts out of his character and certainly not in the way you accept. One similar expression I can think of is 不知好歹. 

 

 

[歐博思]

It means "traitor", and it's a type of 空耳. So, "he's a traitor". https://youtu.be/YSZyMXaXkHo?t=186

 

空耳 is when a Chinese speaker watches a foreign language work, such as the German movie "Downfall" in this case, and it sounds like funny nonsense in Chinese occasionally.

 

https://www.zhihu.com/question/24848399 ---> http://www.interglot.com/dictionary/de/en/translate/Verräter

 

 

[Tomsima]

according to the 知乎 reply, 反了他 (or 反啦他) is the equivalent to the sound Verräter. does it also carry the meaning of the original german word (叛徒) in the above context?

[kavanin]

Here is a bit more of the context.

[歐博思]

Rewind a bit from the timestamp linked in my first post. There's a 管 sentence in there too before 反了他. Wow follows it so perfectly 

 

Here's another 空耳: https://www.bilibili.com/video/av12953063/?from=search&seid=512567134375078031

Last one for good measure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8GemHcPPU

 

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does it also carry the meaning of the original german word (叛徒) in the above context?

Yes. 空耳 is intentional comical misapprehension of foreign language media works.

[Publius]

Translating Verräter as 反了他 is 空耳. But the origin of 反了他了 is not 空耳.

 

反 = 造反、反叛 = to rebel, revolt

 

某处反了某人 = 有某人在某处造反 is quite common an expression is 章回体小说 and most certainly is not influenced by European languages. For example:

《封神演義》第十二回：話說李靖在關上無事，忽聞報天下反了四百諸侯。忙傳令出，把守關隘，操演三軍，訓練士卒，謹提防野馬嶺要地。

《金瓶梅詞話》第一回：話說宋徽宗皇帝，政和年間，朝中寵信高、楊、童、蔡四個奸臣，以致天下大亂，黎民失業，百姓倒懸；四方盜賊蜂起，罡星下生人間，攪亂大宋花花世界。四處反了四大寇。那四大寇：山東宋江，淮西王慶，河北田虎，江南方臘，皆轟州劫縣，放火殺人，僭稱王號。惟有宋江替天行道，專報不平，殺天下贓官污吏，豪惡刁民。

 

In the colloquial expression 反了他了 the syntax is somewhat unusual but still Chinese. It basically means 如此放肆，他想造反不成？！ It's a sort of hyperbole, equating domestic violence for example to high treason.

There's some native speakers tying to explain the expression here: https://hinative.com/ja/questions/6026562

 

In the OP's example, the brother is speaking to his sister about her husband, so the third person 他 is used. If he is speaking to himself or to the husband, the second person 你 may be used, e.g. 还反了你了.

Here's another page explaining 反了你了: https://ameblo.jp/tomoko-vivi/entry-12293665573.html

 

[Kathy Lu]

反了你了 according to my husband, you use this to describe an obedient person who suddenly rebels against you and refuses to obey your orders.

一个平时对你唯命是从的人突然要造反和你对着干，不听你的命令了。