Western propaganda

[falconty6]

Check this out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMkHcZ5IwjU

 

Does this video slander China or is it true?

[Lu]

Short answer to your question, but not what you came here for: it's true.

 

Longer answer: you clearly have access to YouTube, so you also have access to a wealth of media reporting on Uighurs, Xinjiang, Chinese oppression there, and any other related subjects. Try Googling, reading newspapers, eye witness reports, etc. Generally, Western media do not work on coordinated slander campaigns - they don't really coordinate. That's capitalism & democracy for you. So if you can find various different newspapers reporting similar facts and coming to the same conclusions, you can generally believe those facts. Which is that for six months? a year? up to a million Uighurs (or more?) have been locked up in internment camps.

 

I'm not going to dig up lots of links for you, because 1) it's my bedtime and 2) I'm not going to do other people's homework for them. You know where Google is, so I'd suggest you start there and come back if you have specific questions.

 

Good luck!

 

 

[feihong]

The video is about the internment vamps in Xinjiang. It’s true. You can read a related story from SCMP:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/2167893/china-legalises-use-re-education-camps-religious-extremists

 

South China Morning Post is based in Hong Kong and owned by Alibaba.

 

 

[vellocet]

On 5/28/2019 at 4:34 AM, Lu said:

Western media do not work on coordinated slander campaigns - they don't really coordinate.

 

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23958

"Are we doing anything to cover Dem leaning bloggers, columnists?"

 

"Here is the current RSVP list to the Thursday Night (4/9) dinner at Podesta's. As a reminder, this is with the 25 reporters more closely following HRC (aka the future bus)."

[feihong]

You misquoted Lu, so allow me to revisit what she actually wrote:

On 5/27/2019 at 3:34 PM, Lu said:

Generally, Western media do not work on coordinated slander campaigns - they don't really coordinate.

 

[Bibu]

you could find most of the Xingjiang news on Baidu in Chinese as well, but different source and  more different conclusions, apparently  news from Google or Baidu  based on similar facts with different conclusions.

 

To be honest, I have less confident toward western media than Chinese media. I have google/facebook/youtube access since these service  created, do not let me check it again.

[DavyJonesLocker]

16 hours ago, vellocet said:

 

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23958

"Are we doing anything to cover Dem leaning bloggers, columnists?"

 

"Here is the current RSVP list to the Thursday Night (4/9) dinner at Podesta's. As a reminder, this is with the 25 reporters more closely following HRC (aka the future bus)

 

 

 

I agree, the disconnect between media and the public is at its greatest its ever been in my view. Take Trump for example, the media backlash against him was fierce and many Americans you talk to have you believe that trump is universally hated across the USA. Maybe the opposing voices are just more vocal about it? However the fact remains  he was voted in  (same as Brexit in the UK) so the support for him is widespread despite what the media would have you believe. I can see him being reelected. 

 

 

[david387]

We all have our opinions. I come from a very Republican state, and I can totally understand why they wanted to elect Trump. I live in a very liberal State, and I can totally understand why they would not want to elect him. I understand how a divided China led to one of the largest famines in human history, and I understand why people would support restricting speech that might bring about division.

 

So I suppose my point is that we should understand why people believe the way they do versus trying to go around saying which opinion is right. In the end, it is a deeper understanding that leads to the solution.

 

An interesting study is how Japan from the late 1800s was a democracy that opposed communism, and became increasingly against socialist policies, and as we know ultra-nationalism then took root.

[Lu]

@vellocet, sure, most media endorsed Clinton rather than Trump. My point is: I'm pretty confident these various media, or most of them at least, all came to this conclusion individually. There was not a big secret get-together of the editors-in-chief in which they discussed who to unanimously support. I suspect that if you go back and look at previous elections, there will have been more of a split between various candidates.

[roddy]

Let's keep the US out of this topic. If you want to start another topic for that, go ahead. But maybe don't bother.