liface Posted February 12, 2020 at 05:29 PM Author Report Posted February 12, 2020 at 05:29 PM 5 hours ago, ZhuoMing said: @liface Just a question out of curiosity, when your Chinese friends are speaking, as in the video at the very end, can you understand what they are saying? I remember when I was speaking around this level I definitely would have never been able to understand people speaking that quickly, and with that kind of vocabulary, but it seems like you are able to! Yes, I understood about 90% of what she was saying. But keep in mind effective altruism is a trusted subject for me. On 2/10/2020 at 5:50 PM, PerpetualChange said: I don't understand why people are ragging on this guy. Appreciate the concern, but I don't see anyone ragging on me! The feedback I've gotten here has been great, especially about the tones (an area where native speakers are lax to correct someone in real life). Keep it coming! Quote
Jan Finster Posted February 12, 2020 at 08:36 PM Report Posted February 12, 2020 at 08:36 PM On 2/10/2020 at 9:32 PM, abcdefg said: To be pedantic, Numbers 1 and 3 are the statements with which I strongly disagree. I agree about point 1, but, if you are not in a hurry, surely statement 3 is not per se wrong. The guy, who currently posts most on the AJATT method concerning learning Japanese (Matt vs Japan), advocates such a period of silent input in order to make your ear capable of actually perceiving subtle nuances in pronunciation. He argues that your pronunciation will be better than if you had started speaking from the start (and had adopted bad habits). 1 Quote
roddy Posted May 6, 2020 at 08:04 AM Report Posted May 6, 2020 at 08:04 AM On 2/12/2020 at 8:36 PM, Jan Finster said: advocates such a period of silent input in order to make your ear capable of actually perceiving subtle nuances in pronunciation. What does he actually suggest doing? Sitting listening isn't necessarily going to work. Quote
Jan Finster Posted May 6, 2020 at 10:12 AM Report Posted May 6, 2020 at 10:12 AM 1 hour ago, roddy said: What does he actually suggest doing? Sitting listening isn't necessarily going to work. He advocates a period of 1-2 years of massive input (yes, tons of listening and reading) to first get used to the language and build an ear to appreciate subtle differences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OuMfLtK3tU https://massimmersionapproach.com https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-1/jp-quickstart-guide/ Here is an interview with him and Steve Kaufman. While Steve agrees on many points of Matt's approach, he disagrees about some other aspects. However, Steve does acknowledge in the end that Matt's Japanese is "probably the best" he has heard from a foreigner. So Matt must have been doing something right. Here is the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgjPByUamFQ (They start speaking Japanese around 26:47) 1 Quote
Flickserve Posted May 6, 2020 at 10:48 AM Report Posted May 6, 2020 at 10:48 AM He does have a microphone, earphone, noise cancelling headphones setup for speaking practice which depends on having a good ear for subtle differences. Quote
Tomsima Posted May 6, 2020 at 01:24 PM Report Posted May 6, 2020 at 01:24 PM 3 hours ago, Jan Finster said: Here is the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgjPByUamFQ (They start speaking Japanese around 26:47) First time I've actually watched a video of Matt talking abouthis language learning philosophy, and thought he did a fantastic job explaining his views, especially while being interviewed by a slightly passive-agressive Steve Kaufman. Quote
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